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Old 06-09-09, 06:47 AM   #25
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Default Re: 8200: Can using NVIDIA driver cause SATA errors as below? Ubuntu 8.10

And another: it broke after 14hours uptime again. I'm replacing my hdd tonight and give it a try.
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Old 08-13-09, 12:17 PM   #26
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Default Re: 8200: Can using NVIDIA driver cause SATA errors as below? Ubuntu 8.10

I also agree the answer is YES, also in Ubuntu 9.04.

This bug's really been killing me, here's my system info, seems to be a combination of hardware and drivers:

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-M78SM-S2H GF8200

Hard Drives:
- 1xSeagate 80GB SATA drive running Ubuntu 9.04 on ext3
- 3xWestern Digital Green Power 1TB trying to run software Raid5 ext3 with mdadm
- The Raid5 is using Sata ports 4,5, and 6 on the Motherboard (Also tried 2 and 3 and still had errors)

I've tried 3 versions of NVidia GLX Drivers
- Version 173.14.16 (In Ubuntu apt directory)
- Version 180.44 (Also in Ubuntu apt directory)
- Version 190.18 (Beta driver downloaded from NVidia)

I also tried both available Bios versions for the Gigabyte Motherbaord (Version F3l(new) and F1(old)) and both versions have the errors.

All 3 of these drivers caused the following errors when writing to my Raid5 array, I never see any errors on the 80GB hard drive.

The only way I can avoid the Sata errors is to use the default Vesa video drivers that come with Ubuntu, or run the pc without a GUI.

Now, the funny thing, I DO NOT have any Sata errors on a different GF8200 Motherboard, the Asus M3N78-VM, running a Raid5 and LVM with 8 different hard drives and running Nvidia driver 190.16.

Code:
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902332] ata5.00: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x3e SErr 0x1800000 action 0x6 frozen
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902345] ata5.00: irq_stat 0x08000000, interface fatal error
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902353] ata5: SError: { LinkSeq TrStaTrns }
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902366] ata5.00: cmd 61/00:08:3f:2c:56/02:00:30:00:00/40 tag 1 ncq 262144 out
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902369]          res 40/00:2c:c7:57:56/00:00:30:00:00/40 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error)
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902375] ata5.00: status: { DRDY }
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902383] ata5.00: cmd 61/20:10:3f:36:56/00:00:30:00:00/40 tag 2 ncq 16384 out
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902386]          res 40/00:2c:c7:57:56/00:00:30:00:00/40 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error)
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902391] ata5.00: status: { DRDY }
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902400] ata5.00: cmd 61/30:18:3f:38:56/00:00:30:00:00/40 tag 3 ncq 24576 out
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902402]          res 40/00:2c:c7:57:56/00:00:30:00:00/40 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error)
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902526] ata5.00: status: { DRDY }
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902547] ata5.00: cmd 61/70:20:cf:45:56/00:00:30:00:00/40 tag 4 ncq 57344 out
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902550]          res 40/00:2c:c7:57:56/00:00:30:00:00/40 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error)
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902555] ata5.00: status: { DRDY }
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902563] ata5.00: cmd 61/40:28:c7:57:56/00:00:30:00:00/40 tag 5 ncq 32768 out
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902566]          res 40/00:2c:c7:57:56/00:00:30:00:00/40 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error)
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902571] ata5.00: status: { DRDY }
Aug 13 10:11:54 raidserver kernel: [  284.902581] ata5: hard resetting link
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.380573] ata5: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.385316] ata5.00: configured for UDMA/133
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.385398] ata5: EH complete
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.385575] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] 1953525168 512-byte hardware sectors: (1.00 TB/931 GiB)
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.385610] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.385615] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.385662] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478600] ata5.00: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x3 SErr 0x400000 action 0x6 frozen
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478611] ata5.00: irq_stat 0x08000000, interface fatal error
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478619] ata5: SError: { Handshk }
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478631] ata5.00: cmd 61/00:00:3f:e2:55/04:00:30:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 524288 out
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478633]          res 40/00:0c:f7:1c:56/00:00:30:00:00/40 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error)
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478639] ata5.00: status: { DRDY }
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478648] ata5.00: cmd 60/d8:08:f7:1c:56/00:00:30:00:00/40 tag 1 ncq 110592 in
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478651]          res 40/00:0c:f7:1c:56/00:00:30:00:00/40 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error)
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478661] ata5.00: status: { DRDY }
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478673] ata5: hard resetting link
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478690] ata4.00: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x1 SErr 0x400000 action 0x6 frozen
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478694] ata4.00: irq_stat 0x08000000, interface fatal error
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478699] ata4: SError: { Handshk }
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478708] ata4.00: cmd 61/00:00:3f:e2:55/04:00:30:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 524288 out
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478710]          res 40/00:04:3f:e2:55/00:00:30:00:00/40 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error)
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478715] ata4.00: status: { DRDY }
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478721] ata4: hard resetting link
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478733] ata6.00: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x1 SErr 0x1800000 action 0x6 frozen
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478738] ata6.00: irq_stat 0x08000000, interface fatal error
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478743] ata6: SError: { LinkSeq TrStaTrns }
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478752] ata6.00: cmd 61/00:00:3f:e2:55/04:00:30:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 524288 out
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478754]          res 40/00:04:3f:e2:55/00:00:30:00:00/40 Emask 0x10 (ATA bus error)
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478759] ata6.00: status: { DRDY }
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.478765] ata6: hard resetting link
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.960557] ata5: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.962651] ata5.00: configured for UDMA/133
Aug 13 10:11:55 raidserver kernel: [  285.962677] ata5: EH complete
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Old 08-14-09, 02:47 AM   #27
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Default Re: 8200: Can using NVIDIA driver cause SATA errors as below? Ubuntu 8.10

Now we can narrow this down to a WD (Green/Notebookdrive) <-> nVidia Incompatibility i think. Your WD Green Power drives support head parking as well as my WD Scorpio drive does. Besides making horrible clicking noise every few seconds (which increase the "Load_Cycle_Count" on your SMART status, the drive disconnects from the bus every now and then. I exchanged the drive for a Samsung F2 Ecogreen and the issues were gone.
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Old 08-14-09, 01:49 PM   #28
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Default Re: 8200: Can using NVIDIA driver cause SATA errors as below? Ubuntu 8.10

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Now we can narrow this down to a WD (Green/Notebookdrive) <-> nVidia Incompatibility i think. Your WD Green Power drives support head parking as well as my WD Scorpio drive does. Besides making horrible clicking noise every few seconds (which increase the "Load_Cycle_Count" on your SMART status, the drive disconnects from the bus every now and then. I exchanged the drive for a Samsung F2 Ecogreen and the issues were gone.
Hmm, i switched from Samsung disks to Western Digital Green Power ones and the problem is gone ....
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Old 08-15-09, 01:31 AM   #29
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Default Re: 8200: Can using NVIDIA driver cause SATA errors as below? Ubuntu 8.10

I think it is safe to say that this is not a "WD (Green/Notebookdrive) <-> nVidia Incompatibility", as jjl304 has implied that this also happened with a Seagate drive. I can personally say that I have seen this problem with a SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB that was paired with an 8200-based motherboard. In my case, the board that I was using happened to be a Gigabyte GA-M78SM-S2H, which is the same as jjl304.

I find it interesting that jjl304 says that he does not see any errors using the Asus M3N78-VM board. An interesting test would be to swap only the motherboard between the systems. If the SATA issues follow the Gigabyte board, then the problem can be pinned on the board. From this, there are a few possible scenarios:
- Chipset initialization procedure is incorrect. This could be cleared up with a BIOS update.
- Different chipset revisions between the two boards. Perhaps an older revision of the chipset has a known errata that the companies have been tight-lipped about?
- Poor design on the Gigabyte board leading to noise or clock jitter issues that impact the SATA interfaces. This scenario is less likely given the fact the the issue is not seen when using the vesa driver.

Without inside information we can only speculate. Personally, because I was sick of fighting the issues, I went out and bought a SATA PCI card. Unfortunately, I don't think there will ever be a resolution to this, but I would love to be proved wrong!
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Old 08-15-09, 11:58 AM   #30
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I find it interesting that jjl304 says that he does not see any errors using the Asus M3N78-VM board.
Well I can verify jjl304's findings. I have 4 of those M3N78-VM boards as well as a couple M3N-HT Deluxes and they do not exhibit the issues you are seeing. no MSI foolery is needed either.
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Old 09-03-09, 08:41 PM   #31
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Default Re: 8200: Can using NVIDIA driver cause SATA errors as below? Ubuntu 8.10

Has anyone made any progress with this? I'm getting SATA errors with my GA-M78SM-S2H board. I have 2 500gb WD drives a 1 1tb WD drive. I've been able to significantly reduce the number of times I get the errors by disabling the onboard USB and using a USB 2.0 pci card I had laying around and disabling NCQ, but I still get the errors. Especially if I try to copy large files to the pc over the network. I still occasionally get them when I'm watching videos as well, causing the video to lock up for 5-10 seconds.
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Old 09-03-09, 09:00 PM   #32
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Default Re: 8200: Can using NVIDIA driver cause SATA errors as below? Ubuntu 8.10

I haven't read the whole thread but smells like interrupt sharing to me. That's a bit tricky and the BIOS can screw it up, which is probably the fault of your mainboard vendor here, in particular since Windoze is affected, too.

You should troll your BIOS and google to see whether you can make the stupid board not share the interrupt that the SATA controller has.

Try a BIOS update.

Use a PCIe SATA controller.
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Old 09-04-09, 12:16 PM   #33
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Default Re: 8200: Can using NVIDIA driver cause SATA errors as below? Ubuntu 8.10

It's not limited to my mainboard, ASUS boards with the same chipset have the same issue, but they apparently have a bios update to resolve the issue which gigabytes does not. I was hoping someone may have come across a solution to the issue that doesn't involve buying more hardware. I don't think it is an issue with the SATA controller sharing an interrupt, seeing as it only happens when the nvidia driver is loaded, and it is on it's own interrupt.
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Old 09-06-09, 03:48 PM   #34
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Default Re: 8200: Can using NVIDIA driver cause SATA errors as below? Ubuntu 8.10

Errors like the ones posted at the start of this thread are usually a hardware problem causing issues with data transfers on the SATA link and are unlikely to be a driver problem. One possibility is that the higher GPU power draw when using intensive video applications (3D, VDPAU, etc.) is causing the problem due to an inadequate power supply, or possibly even a motherboard design fault. SATA transfers seem sensitive to power quality and interface errors seem to be a fairly common symptom of power issues these days.
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Old 09-14-09, 12:44 PM   #35
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It's not a power supply problem, I've already upgraded it. It's not an issue with the power supply being inadequate either, I get the problem with the Nvidia driver loaded and X is not loaded (so no 3d, vdpau etc). I've tried other ports on the mainboard and tried other sata cables, still does it. I've run diagnostics on the harddrive twice, no faults found. This ONLY happens when the Nvidia driver is loaded. Other mainboard manufacturers with the same chipset seem to have released a bios update that resolves the issue. Unfortunately gigabyte has not, that's why I was hoping someone may have some kind of work around.
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Old 09-16-09, 11:59 AM   #36
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For anyone else having this issue, I may have figured it out (at least in my case). I found a post elsewhere with someone who has the same problems and had already swapped around SATA cables, but turns out he was swapping the cables out with the same brand of cheap cables. I looked through my error logs and noticed on other drive occasionally showing the same errors. I have 4 drives in my system, 1 shows the error rarely, one shows it constantly, the other 2 don't. I look inside and found the 2 drives showing the error are both using the same cheap $1.50 sata cable, the 2 drives not showing the error are connected with a better quality cable that came with the mainboard. I swapped the cables out with better ones and haven't been able to recreate the problem anymore. I've run some stress tests and copied files to the machine over the network, and the errors never came back so far. I took a closer look at the cheaper cables, and could actually see stress marks and stretching on the cables where they were folded for packaging. Anyone else still having this issue, it may be worth replacing the sata cables with some higher quality cables, I have seen some floating around that are actually marked "SATA II."
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