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Old 06-02-03, 09:30 PM   #121
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There is something ironic about this to me. a discussion me and digital had on another thread.



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I think it's time that we take a step back from that question and start questioning the original poster who said there was going to be an announcement...what info was that based on?

Because unless I'm mistaken, it's a bit late in the business day for nVidia to be putting out much news.

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Maybe futuremark and Nvidia kiss and make up? naww has to be somethen dirty...

Maybe I was right?


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Old 06-02-03, 09:30 PM   #122
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well... the day aquamark 3 is released there will be no cheats in the current generation of cards and drivers. after that though... the next driver updates, and cards will have cheats.

If the gaming experience and the IQ is the same for ATI and Nvidia
to the gamer ,and they cant notice diferences between cards
then any cheat ,hack,or optimization is valid.
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Old 06-02-03, 09:30 PM   #123
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well... the day aquamark 3 is released there will be no cheats in the current generation of cards and drivers. after that though... the next driver updates, and cards will have cheats.
yeh, that is the most likely scenario. I just wish a company big enough and tough enough to stand up to NV would release a benchmark.
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Old 06-02-03, 09:32 PM   #124
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hmm... "Poof" is slang for Homosexual in this country.
Kyle said it on the www.hardocp.com front page, not me.
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Old 06-02-03, 09:34 PM   #125
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If the gaming experience and the IQ is the same for ATI and Nvidia
to the gamer ,and they cant notice diferences between cards
then any cheat ,hack,or optimization is valid.
Get a load of this guy.......
Cmon NV40 gimme something better than that, I've seen alot of spew come out of those fingers B4.

Don't let me down now.
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Old 06-02-03, 09:35 PM   #126
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I still say it was a cheat and I don't think anyone is fooled buy this... this is just as bad as the quake/quack problem ati had.
It's worse by far. Quack only existed(with degraded IQ) in one driver set. How many driver sets did nvidia have which either "cheated" or had some bugs lowering IQ in them? At least 5.
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Old 06-02-03, 09:37 PM   #127
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i dont think there is really any good way to test the different fps in games anymore. 3dmark01 used to be good... (besides the fact it was WAY WAY to oversensitive to fsb overclocks... but at default fsb its pretty good.) 3dmark03 is trash imo... its nice to tweak your score and see how your system compares to someone else's with the same hardware... it looks decent... but i feel its poorly optimized, and not really a good idea of where games are headed. (the ragdoll physics test, and the sound test, i felt was a needed feature in benchies, which is one of the strongpoints of 3dmark03, again imho)

remember when quake2 had that ingame benchmark? i think it was ~timerefresh... or something like that... where the camera would spin around? theres no way to fix that benchie... because you could always do it in a different spot... is that accurate? why dont the newer games have something like this?
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Old 06-02-03, 09:39 PM   #128
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troo-dat...

rest o yr post made sense too...

it's a sick sick world, huh?

this thread's gettin a little bloated...
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i dont think there is really any good way to test the different fps in games anymore. 3dmark01 used to be good... 3dmark03 is trash imo...

remember when quake2 had that ingame benchmark? i think it was ~timerefresh... or something like that... where the camera would spin around? theres no way to fix that benchie... because you could always do it in a different spot... is that accurate? why dont the newer games have something like this?
OH yeah i rember that, it was a pritty cool feature.

Didnt someone make a map thats a octogon with a bunch of polys and scripted it so a bunch of guys just run in circles
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Let's leave what happens on Rage3d over at Rage3d, shall we?
And what purpose would that serve if it is relevent to the conversation at hand? I have read at least a dozen sites listed here and neary a mention to them.
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Old 06-02-03, 09:40 PM   #131
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Futuremark = SELL OUT!

Nvidia needs a complete management shake up.

Talk about a quagmire of questionable business ethics.

needs to be some serious bitch slapping. Talk about ruining a corporations reputation, the last 6 months have been infuriating for an Nvidia fan.
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Old 06-02-03, 09:41 PM   #132
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OK.... So NV's card cannot do this... hummm maybe they should.

Well, at least FM fixed it. So now the 9800 and 5900 r very close in 3DM03.
PowerVR uses a fundamentally different architecture than any other 3d card IHV. PowerVR uses tile based rendering, which makes it easier to do hidden surface removal and render only what is seen in any given scene.

nvidia, ATI, et al have already invested time and money in making immediate mode renderers more efficient, I'd be surprised if they switched to TBRs.
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