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Old 06-05-03, 02:23 PM   #385
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http://hard.zol.com.cn/labs/2003/0514/60670.shtml

http://www.zdnet.co.jp/news/0305/13/nj00_nv35.html
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Old 06-05-03, 02:28 PM   #386
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Thanks for the update!

I wonder how it will turn out
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Old 06-05-03, 03:08 PM   #387
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ok, I understand now your guess about the DDR II nv35 version. All what nvidia wanted to say that the nv35 as also the nv30,nv31 and nv34 support DDR II but the nv35 certainly will not feature DDR II RAM. That's the difference.

Although nvidia leaves the choice to manufactures whether to use DDR II or not, no one will probably try it with the nv35. You even don't need it. The current DDR I memory is capable of 900+ MHz, offering 28.8 GB/s bandwidth which is more than enough for the current graphiccards. It would be difficult to offer this bandwidth with DDR II RAM.

Hellbinder, trying again to be the big all-knowing one. Head over to any hardware CPU forum (THG for example) and you will feel the calm with is currently reigning over there. The situation however was never as worse as during the period where the Athlons offered superior performance than the P4s. It's was horrible at that time (much like today on any graphiccard forum).

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Old 06-05-03, 04:45 PM   #388
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Head over to any hardware CPU forum (THG for example) and you will feel the calm with is currently reigning over there. The situation however was never as worse as during the period where the Athlons offered superior performance than the P4s. It's was horrible at that time (much like today on any graphiccard forum).
TOM'S?!?! You're pointing to TOM'S as an example of a site that is better off when nVidia is in the lead? WELL OF COURSE THEY ARE, THEY'RE A BLOODY NVIDIA SITE!!!!

Jeeze, what next? You're gonna blame us for causing all the comotion over at [t]ardOCP and tell us about how much better it was in the good old days when everyone just took nVidia's PR and treated it as the gospel fact?

What the hell are you smoking boy? That's just plain silly!
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Hellbinder, trying again to be the big all-knowing one. Head over to any hardware CPU forum (THG for example) and you will feel the calm with is currently reigning over there. The situation however was never as worse as during the period where the Athlons offered superior performance than the P4s. It's was horrible at that time (much like today on any graphiccard forum).
Soo.. Im the all knowing one becuase I said it is simply not true that the World was perfectly Scerene because Nvidia Conrolled the industry???
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Old 06-05-03, 05:15 PM   #390
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TOM'S?!?! You're pointing to TOM'S as an example of a site that is better off when nVidia is in the lead? WELL OF COURSE THEY ARE, THEY'RE A BLOODY NVIDIA SITE!!!!
read again, I was talking about Tom's CPU forums and THG was just an example out of many others! I just tried to compare the ex-CPU situation with the current graphiccard flamewars. History repeats again... as usually
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read again, I was talking about Tom's CPU forums and THG was just an example out of many others! I just tried to compare the ex-CPU situation with the current graphiccard flamewars. History repeats again... as usually
What I got out of your post was that if ATi would roll over and die the geek world would be all better, and I just gotta kindly disagree with that sentiment.
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Old 06-05-03, 06:36 PM   #392
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The R300 also supported ddrI/ddrII. We never saw a ddrII R300. Just because NV35 supports ddrII doesn't mean it will ever use it. Especially if NV40 is coming out this Fall, I have a hard time believing nvidia would release a NV35UltraUltra.
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The R300 also supported ddrI/ddrII. We never saw a ddrII R300. Just because NV35 supports ddrII doesn't mean it will ever use it. Especially if NV40 is coming out this Fall, I have a hard time believing nvidia would release a NV35UltraUltra.

Actually Nvidia doesn't have too. That could be up to its board partners. Food for thought
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Old 06-05-03, 10:10 PM   #394
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The R300 also supported ddrI/ddrII. We never saw a ddrII R300. Just because NV35 supports ddrII doesn't mean it will ever use it. Especially if NV40 is coming out this Fall, I have a hard time believing nvidia would release a NV35UltraUltra.
Bottom line is you never know. If R360 overpowers NV35 badly, nVidia just might do something about it and the only thing I can think of is DDR2. (I think it all depends how far NV40 stands)
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Bottom line is you never know. If R360 overpowers NV35 badly, nVidia just might do something about it and the only thing I can think of is DDR2. (I think it all depends how far NV40 stands)
I dont think Nvidia has a bandwith problem that would require DDRII. If they did need a 'quick' refresh, they would just slap on the FlowFX on a nv35 and slap it up to 550/450.

But I dont think we will see anyting new till nv40 from nvidia.
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Bottom line is you never know. If R360 overpowers NV35 badly, nVidia just might do something about it and the only thing I can think of is DDR2. (I think it all depends how far NV40 stands)

Actually the current FX 5900 ultra 256MB has enough bandwidth.
Its only lacking in fillrate/core speed.
If NVIDIA can release a higher clocked NV35, it will be able to at least match R360.
However, it just doesn't make sense for NVIDIA to release a NV35 super ultra. (FX 5900 Extreme ???)
As Stealthhawk said: especially the NV40 is coming by end of this year.

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Oops, Glowstick beats me by a nose. Looks like we have the same thinking on this one ....
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