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Old 02-18-09, 02:29 AM   #25
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Could you elaborate a bit more about the XFi problem. I'm using Vista 64 and thinking about getting it.
Yes, I have problems with drivers (supposely are stable, but latest version reduce my FPS in games) and tried to change it between my 3 PCI buses without luck, basicly I see a performance loss in games, which can´t be logical due that XFi is more powerful than integrated audio and the fact that I learned to hate Creative after all the hassle I had with Vista and XFI, so I´m not a good advisor in this matter
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Old 02-18-09, 06:57 AM   #26
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Why should anyone have "to get Vista to work properly"???

Especially when Windows 7 works out of the box. Dude, you look like a fool with comments like that. The reason Windows 7 works is because it's not nearly as busted as Vista always was. I don't have time to spend "to get Vista to work properly". Give me an OS that works properly like Windows 7.

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I look like the fool when your the genius who has problems with Vista, yet remarkably, 99.9% of the forums dont have any problems with Vista.

Then to compound that fact, your friends with one of the single largest anti-Vista trolls I have ever seen.

LOL like it matters what your opinion is of me
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Old 02-18-09, 08:05 AM   #27
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I look like the fool when your the genius who has problems with Vista, yet remarkably, 99.9% of the forums dont have any problems with Vista.

Then to compound that fact, your friends with one of the single largest anti-Vista trolls I have ever seen.

LOL like it matters what your opinion is of me
Vista is dead - Vista problems will be gone forever and Windows 7 will reign supreme. Thank GOD MS accelerated the release to get Vista off the market.

Stop living in the past.
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Old 02-18-09, 01:26 PM   #28
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I'm pretty sure most people don't report crashes and problems with Vista here. Most of you have top range hardware, the problems with performance that people report you'll wonder why.

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Old 02-18-09, 01:58 PM   #29
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Most of you have top range hardware, the problems with performance that people report you'll wonder why.
Is that a haiku?
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I'm pretty sure most people don't report crashers and problem with Vista here. Most of you have top range hardware, the problems with performance that people report you'll wonder why.
I do remember installing Vista on my 2ghz coreduo 2gig ram laptop and and I quickly shot back to XP..it really did perform worse. I've run both XP and Vista on my 3.85ghz quad rig and I cannot for the life of me tell a difference in performance, so there just may be a clock speed where it doesn't matter.
My 3ghz core2duo rig in my basement has vista32 and I am very pleased with its performance so no upgrade there either.
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Windows 7 was not accelerated to oust Vista. It was the plan from the beginning to ship another OS within 3 years of the last release. Longhorn was the same way with XP but perhaps it got a little too ambitious and needed extra time to regroup into what became Vista.
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You can't say it's faster without quoting a source, hardware specs and the likes. You can be a cute little smart ass but that only gets you so far. I'm never said in my original post I've not seen these but your in a thread were the guy asked whether he should go to Windows 7 based on his current specs and you never offered a legitimate source proving WIndows 7 is better thank Vista on a machine comparable to his specs.

But thanks I do love that site, it makes me LOL every time I see someone do it.
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Why should anyone have "to get Vista to work properly"???

Especially when Windows 7 works out of the box. Dude, you look like a fool with comments like that. The reason Windows 7 works is because it's not nearly as busted as Vista always was. I don't have time to spend "to get Vista to work properly". Give me an OS that works properly like Windows 7.

Thanks for the laugh.
Windows Vista doesn't work out of the box? Let me make a video for you next time I reformat my hard drive, which was last week. Lets see insert DVD, install drivers, install updates, setup preferences and done. Whats so hard about that? I didn't make it work for me. That's about the same thing I did for the Windows 7 beta, except I had to find some drivers which was a bit annoying but it is a beta.

Vista prior to SP1 did have a lot of problems but they made it much better. And it doesn't matter if prior to SP1 it sucked because you'll not find a retail of Vista sans SP1 or a OEM computer with out SP1.
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Windows Vista doesn't work out of the box? Let me make a video for you next time I reformat my hard drive, which was last week. Lets see insert DVD, install drivers, install updates, setup preferences and done. Whats so hard about that? I didn't make it work for me. That's about the same thing I did for the Windows 7 beta, except I had to find some drivers which was a bit annoying but it is a beta.

Vista prior to SP1 did have a lot of problems but they made it much better. And it doesn't matter if prior to SP1 it sucked because you'll not find a retail of Vista sans SP1 or a OEM computer with out SP1.
Vista out of the box meant Vista RTM NOT SP1, NOT SP2. But the original out of the box Vista. It has gotten better with SP2 but like many others I had alot of issues the way it shipped.
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Vista out of the box meant Vista RTM NOT SP1, NOT SP2. But the original out of the box Vista. It has gotten better with SP2 but like many others I had alot of issues the way it shipped.
IIRC, many of the "issues" were the fact that software developers didn't make drivers... don't get me wrong, there were a few issues with basic functions (ie netword transfers and file copying), but the bulk of problems were drivers related to third party problems.
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I know I'm going to get burned for saying this but...I liked Vista better than Win7 at this point. After Black Viper's service tweak, vista boots up within a shade of win7, and is just as snappy. In fact, it is actually a bit snappier. But like I said, my vista is about as lightened as you possibly can without making drastic changes to the os. But its the same way I treat all my OS's. Win 7 does have a bit of a smaller footprint in absolute MB's (about 100MB), but who cares. Also, Win7 has some issues in the beta that Vista doesn't have.

I was suprised, I thought I would run Win7 almost exclusively. But it really is so incredibly similar to Vista.

Running 3.7ghz Core i7, 3gb Ram, Gtx 260+, 7200rpm slow ass hard drives (no raid).

edit: Oh and shock and awe, but I prefer vista to Win XP too!.

The only thing that I do notice is that with Aero on, with transparency or off, the UI is less responsive than XP's. However, that dissapears when you revert to no DWM, basic ass vista, which makes it to look basically the same as XP. Though I prefer to run with Aero/transparency, or sometimes sans the transp. and it is plenty fast.

I think that Win7 is snake oil for a looooot of people. They are finding a miracle in a different product, even if that product is only marginally better. Whatever makes you happy though.

All this being said, Win7 does take the lead in performance in benchmarks, sometimes by a significant margin, even if the absolute times would probably not be noticed by most, as long as they did some basic service tweaks to vista. However, it is hard to justify sticking with an OS that is slower.

As far as spending money on Win7 goes, I definetely wouldn't if you already have Vista. The latter gets a bad rap, but with proper care is a great OS. If your hardware is fast enough it defenitely doesn't feel sluggish.
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