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Old 06-01-09, 10:40 AM   #1
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Hi,

I am just about to purchase a new PC. This PC is primarily going to be used for gaming. I have a choice of having Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit edition or the 32 bit edition installed. I have been doing my research on which version is best for gaming but there seems to be good and bad points for both.

I would like to know what you think and if you have had any issues with the 64 bit version.

The PC specs are listed below;
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Thaks for your help.
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Old 06-01-09, 10:46 AM   #2
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You need x64 to use more than 4GB of RAM so its an easy choice is you want to have 8GB. Even without the limitation, there is no reason not to run a x64 OS.
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Yeah, I agree with what Bigbuck said. Go with the 64bit version.
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Old 06-01-09, 10:50 AM   #4
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yea 8GB ram needs x64 otherwise you wont be using more than half your ram!
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Old 06-01-09, 11:06 AM   #5
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Sorry I forgot to mention that if I went for the 32 bit version I wouldn't install as much RAM as I know that it wouldn't be utilised.

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Sorry I forgot to mention that if I went for the 32 bit version I wouldn't install as much RAM as I know that it wouldn't be utilized.

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Unless you do some 'serious' multitasking, you will never use 8GB of RAM.

Even in 64-Bit, a single app is limited to 2GB of RAM. (vista and Win7)


I have Win7x64 RC and 4GB, and almost never exceed 50% RAM utilization.
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Old 06-02-09, 12:26 AM   #7
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Unless you do some 'serious' multitasking, you will never use 8GB of RAM.

Even in 64-Bit, a single app is limited to 2GB of RAM. (vista and Win7)


I have Win7x64 RC and 4GB, and almost never exceed 50% RAM utilization.
That's not necessarily true. It's possible to allocate up to 4GB for each 32-bit process, and 8TB for each 64-bit process. There are a few games out there that have 64-bit binaries, and more and more applications in general after updates or new releases that do as well. See this chart for specifics:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778.aspx
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Unless you do some 'serious' multitasking, you will never use 8GB of RAM.

Even in 64-Bit, a single app is limited to 2GB of RAM. (vista and Win7)


I have Win7x64 RC and 4GB, and almost never exceed 50% RAM utilization.
If you are using Vista, Superfetch will load up every little bit of ram you have. So it will use 8GB, your apps might not but Vista will.
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Old 06-02-09, 01:35 PM   #9
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Keep this general rule of thumb in mind:

If the game is more simplistic and doesn't use a lot of memory, 32-bit is always faster.

If the game has e.g. very large landscapes that are all visible to the player at once (e.g. stuff doesn't necessarily fade into the background if you are more than 20 feet away) has a large amount of objects visible at once, etc, and hence requires a lot more memory to work with, 64-bit is always faster.

By this same token, 16-bit is even faster for games that use hardly any memory at all, believe it or not. The reason for this is simple, the larger (physical space) each processor instruction is, the more bandwidth you need to e.g. copy that instruction from the hard disk, to the memory, to the cpu, etc (aka your computer's "bus".) But if you have to handle larger data structures, you can do it in fewer processing steps per operation if your processor uses larger registers. (aka more "bits")

As hard disks get faster, memory gets faster, and motherboards improve, etc, the speed loss from increasing the number of "bits" you use diminishes, and hence after some time everybody will eventually be using 64-bit for everything.
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64bit all the way. I have a VERY similar system (Q9400 8GB DDR2-800) and I can tell you that it's fantastic for gaming and everything else.

64bit windows is now compatible with everything important. It doesn't support 16 bit binaries so unless you're clinging to wordperfect 4.5 you should be fine. Even so there's always virtual PC free from MS for such situations.

Could I possibly get 1 or 2 FPS more out of 32bit? Maybe, more reviews are showing them to be pretty much on par though.

64bit offers many advantages though such as very large (such as you have) memory support which Vista WILL use. Also, many applications are now being compiled for 64bit most notably Adobe's CS4 suite. 64bit CPUs have much wider registers and more of them so productivity applications often see considerable performance increases thanks to 64bit x86.

In short, unless you have a 10 year old scanner that you just can't live without for some reason, you have virtually nothing to lose going 64bit and lots to gain!
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Old 06-08-09, 10:53 PM   #11
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people still use vista?
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Old 06-08-09, 11:30 PM   #12
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Yes, and on high spec systems it's actually much more responsive than Windows 7 RC1.

I'm sure once Win 7 is RTM that will change but for now it's still RC software with more bugs and lesser performance on high spec systems IME on three high end machines here.
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