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Old 03-20-09, 07:13 AM   #1
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Hi,

Does your nVidia graphics card actually work properly under Linux? Please post the card and the driver version if it actually works without problems.

Since getting stuck with this bug: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...34#post1957534 and no nVidia reply (as of writing), I'm about ready to ditch the whole machine it is that frustrating.

Personally I'm interested in modern gaming capable cards like GeForce® Go 8700M, Dual GeForce® Go 8700M GS and Dual GeForce® Go 8800M GTX as that's what Dell are offering on their XPS range but anything would be interesting that actually works under Linux.

Anyone???
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Old 03-20-09, 08:08 AM   #2
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Those are older onboard graphics, hardly what I would call modern gaming machines.

My ASUS laptop has a 9800m GS in it. It works flawlessly.
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Old 03-20-09, 09:17 AM   #3
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Hi!

Your flickering problem appears to be what i was faced with, some times ago:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...26&postcount=1
(check the last paragraph in the posting).

Maybe the VGA BIOS settings of your video card are too optimistic/aggressive?

Can you please increase the 2D GPU&memory clock settings to match the
3D clock settings and report the result?

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Old 03-20-09, 10:11 AM   #4
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I had:
Geforce 2MX 400
Geforce FX5200
Geforce 6150
now have:
Geforce 7900GS
Geforce 8200
and all of them work very well. I use every new driver release. It happened few times that there was bug but after reporting it it was fixed next release. Now use 185.13.
I used to blame Nvidia for lack of features like slow 2D and weak video acceleration. But XvMC acceleration appeared, then outstanding XRender acceleration for 2D and finally excellent VDPAU which I really love. I used to recommend Geforce7 because of XvMC but thanks to VDPAU some gpus from Geforce 8 or 9 family is worth using now instead of Geforce7.

Of course there are still things I like to see in the future like Gradient acceleration in XRender or accelerated console frame buffer. But these features are hard to write for developers because gradients are not accelerated in Windows driver and accelerated console is not present on Windows too so there is no code to port to Linux. Such things have to be created from nothing. However nvidiafb driver in every kernel source contains all needed code for console acceleration due to licensing it can not be embedded to nvidia kernel driver. So vesafb vs nvidia driver fight for resources will continue on my gpu.
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Old 03-20-09, 11:10 AM   #5
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FX 5200 AGP
6800 GT AGP
7950 GT PCI-E
8600 GT PCI-E
9500 GT PCI-E
9650m GT PCI-E
9800 GTX+ PCI-E

I have personally tested all of the above and they all work.
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Old 03-21-09, 05:42 AM   #6
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I used to recommend Geforce7 because of XvMC but thanks to VDPAU some gpus from Geforce 8 or 9 family is worth using now instead of Geforce7.
I would recommend the newest series from nvidia. Don't be surprised when the Geforce 7 series and less doesn't receive new driver updates or optimizations - the geforce 8 and newer chipsets are programmable while as I understand it, the previous series are not.

If you can't use GPGPU on your new buy, you just lost money and are risking the use of deprecated hardware in the short term for the lack of better long term support.
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Old 03-21-09, 01:43 PM   #7
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I believe the best mobile nVidia card that works under Linux is 9800M GS. 8800M GTX, 9800M GT and 9800M GTX suffer from malfunctioning PowerMizer, reducing their performance by half. I'm not sure about 9800M GTS. It has got a different core, so it may work and it wields more power than GS. If you're not in a rush, perhaps waiting until GTX 2xxM gets popularised is a good idea.
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Old 03-22-09, 03:30 PM   #8
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Thanks for the replies. JaXXoN I don't seem to be able to find those settings in the BIOS or nVidia Settings, but thanks for the suggestion.
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Old 03-22-09, 04:26 PM   #9
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Those are older onboard graphics, hardly what I would call modern gaming machines.

My ASUS laptop has a 9800m GS in it. It works flawlessly.
Could you tell us the exact model please.

I am also ready to ditch my machine (acer 6930G notebook with 9600m GS)
For me it is because of the never solved powermizer issues.
(only lower two of the four performance levels are used. I am stuck with 275, 250 Mhz clocks while it should run at 430, 400 Mhz)
See this thread for more about this:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=124153

I have heard reports of different laptops with the same nvidia chip where one has the powermizer issues and the other has not.
So it could also have to do with bios issues or other laptop vendor/model specific differences.

To be sure I get a new laptop where the nvidia card works flawlesly and gets maximum performance I want to make sure I get the exact same model.

So please share the exact model name of your laptop (and the used nvidia chip) if it actually works and can use all the performance of the nvidia card.
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Old 03-22-09, 06:49 PM   #10
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I don't seem to be able to find those settings in the BIOS or nVidia Settings
hmm ... nvidia-settings should have a dialog for "Clock Frequencies" underneath "GPU 0".
(please check attached screenshot)

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Old 03-22-09, 10:21 PM   #11
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hmm ... nvidia-settings should have a dialog for "Clock Frequencies" underneath "GPU 0".
(please check attached screenshot)

regards

Bernhard
Hi Bernhard,

That's odd. Seems I don't have the entry. Here's my screenshot.


Regards,

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Mark, you have to enable "Coolbits" in your xorg.conf file to see that option.
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