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Old 09-15-02, 01:22 AM   #289
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Dave,

Thanks for the post. However, I believe that something here is wrong with my setup. I just bought a new Dell Dimension 8200 witwh GF4Ti4200. I get these settings (after Det. 4 is installed):


-GeForce4ti 4200
- nView Display Mode
- 3D AntiAlias Settings
- Overlay Control
- NVRotate
- Clock Frequencies
- AGP Settings

So this is my dilema! I got the Clock Frequencies and AGP settings by using the script Coolbits. I need to somehow enable:

OpenGL Settings
Direct3D Settings
Desktop Utilities

I suspect that this Dell configuration is somehow blocking these from the registry.

Any further help would be appreciated..

-M

mr blue..i got the direct3d and open gl settings to show up on my dell... this is how i did it. OPEN LOCAL HARD DRIVE(usually c:drive)..and look for yellow folder named "DRIVERS"...open it up and there should be about three other yellow folders..look for one named "VIDEO"..open it up and send to recycle bin any drivers version in there.( i just deleted the whole folder because it only had refference to some 2745 drivers )..after that uninstall your current drivers from add/ remove programs then reboot. then reinstall the 30.82 drivers(3082 are better for now than 4041's)..then reboot again and all the tabs should be in additional properties of video card display. it least it worked for me. ***make sure antivirus is off or disabled when installing new drivers for some reason dell threw in these 2745 drivers that always seemed to leave behind piece's of themself's whenever i changed drivers the were never really gone, but the 2745's are gone now and everything is the way is should be. after you change your drivers u may need to reinstall "REFORCE TOOL" for fixing the 60mhz refresh rate monitor problems. you know what the refresh force tool is all about right? let me know if it worked for you.
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Old 09-15-02, 02:43 AM   #290
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Unhappy Detonators 40:41 Not backward compatible

I'd just like to ask if anyone has found the same problem as me.

The new 40:41 drivers are not 100% backwardly compatible.

I have alot of tech demos and I enjoy the demoscene with over 300 demos on my HD. I'd guess around 15-20% of them fail either at the start or half way through with a 'Visual basic C++' type error.

I've tried 5 times now to get these new drivers to work on my system, even doing a fresh format and install of WinXP to ensure nothing was messed up. But I get the same each time.

The original X-Isle demo (not the newer educational one) won't run either. The new Clone demo crashes, even GL Excess benchmark fails to run about of the way in.

I agree with all other comments that have been posted. Yes they are faster, yes my 3DMark score is better etc etc But they are NOT fully backwardly compatible with all other games/software. It could be that the older drivers were better at handling poorly written software, but I've gotta stick with the older drivers cos I need my daily dose of demos

This is an issue that Nvidia must address before these BETA drivers become official ones. I guess that over the years the older drivers have had alot of fixes and tweaks to overcome problems in games with each new version released. These new drivers have been written from the ground up and do not have any of these tweaks or fixes.

If anyone has found the same sort of compatability problems with older programs, please let me know. And if you have found a fix too I thought I would aire my views as so many forums seem to focus on 3DMarks, Code Creatures and game benchmarks but no mention of this problem is covered.

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Old 09-17-02, 07:27 PM   #291
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caretaker, I'd have to agree with you on the lack of backward compatibility.

EA's F1-2002 stopped working completely, it gets as far as the splash screen then drops back to the desktop with no error messages. Rolling back to the 3x.xx series drivers resolved the issue.

It's quite a shame they're having these problems since the new nView utility is quite a step forward.
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Old 09-17-02, 11:30 PM   #292
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Even the latest and greatest games seem to be having problems with these drivers. Have a look HERE

Unreal Tournament 2003 is having problems with them. Maybe Nvidia will get it fixed after all before final release
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Old 09-18-02, 07:00 AM   #293
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Bad brightness and contrast in Quake 3.

Insane Texture Flashing in Battfield 1942.

These are possibly the worst drivers ive ever used.

30.82's are fine.
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Old 09-18-02, 07:25 AM   #294
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Maybe i missed it somewhere in this thread, but my personnel opinion is that the newer drivers ( Det 4's ) are not very good for the older cards, GeForce 2 GTS.
Wether or not you like 3DMark, my score dropped about 600 points, in my mind that most show something ?, also I was getting some problems in UT2003 demo.
Rolled back the driver last night, and the 600 points returned to my system, and No more probs in UT2003 demo.
Just my opinion but I know what I think of the new drivers.
so much for the 'promised' increase.
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Old 09-18-02, 08:19 AM   #295
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For some it's crap for others the 40.41's work great. i have had no probs in any games and my 3dmark score went up by over 900 points. The main thing though is that all of my games play better than they did. I haven't even had the dark screen in Q3 based games. I don't have UT3, but if it was the one to mess up, it would be the only one. EA F1 2002 works better than ever with setting to the max.
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caretaker, I'd have to agree with you on the lack of backward compatibility.

EA's F1-2002 stopped working completely, it gets as far as the splash screen then drops back to the desktop with no error messages. Rolling back to the 3x.xx series drivers resolved the issue.

It's quite a shame they're having these problems since the new nView utility is quite a step forward.
I agree, for the many demos and games that do work with them, they are much faster and smoother. But alas, there are quite a few that don't work. Let's hope they get it fixed when they go official.

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EA F1 2002 works better than ever with setting to the max.
Consider yourself lucky that it works at all! did you install the 40.41s over the top of the old drivers, or was it a clean install?

Mine's not working at all after a clean install.
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I installed them over the 30.82's. To tell you the truth, I have never done a "clean install" since getting WinXP. If I had a prob with the dets, I just rollback the drivers.
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Just an update, I downloaded the UT2K3 beta and everything worked fine. Also tried the demo and had no problems. Every game I've run with the 40.41's has worked great. Don't understand all these problems others are having, yet a few of us have none.
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my guess is they were released a little hastily, hence the long delay before the certified version... I guess we'll find out soon enough!
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