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Old 06-14-09, 03:57 PM   #109
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Windows = gullible man's OS.

Must be a lot of poor Windows users out there, seeing as it gets pirated a lot.
This is another thing too. I mean if linux was so great, such a phenomenal operating system as fanboys such as yourself make it out to be. Then why is it that by and large people still prefer to illegally pirate windows, and jump through extra hoops just to avoid the anti-piracy measures it has taken, and go out of their way to find a means of downloading it in the first place, than to simply download linux legally, which is freely available from numerous sources that aren't hidden at all?
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Old 06-14-09, 11:46 PM   #110
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Notepad is still the same. Wordpad, Paintbrush have the Office 2007 look, Calculator was majorly updated. There's a nice tool that's new (I never saw it in Vista) called Snipping Tool, similar to Snagit, that allows you to cut out parts of the screen and save them. Great for making documents with screenshots or anything else.

EDIT: Apparently Snipping Tool was in Vista. Weird I never saw it. LOL.
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Old 06-15-09, 10:17 AM   #111
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This is another thing too. I mean if linux was so great, such a phenomenal operating system as fanboys such as yourself make it out to be. Then why is it that by and large people still prefer to illegally pirate windows, and jump through extra hoops just to avoid the anti-piracy measures it has taken, and go out of their way to find a means of downloading it in the first place, than to simply download linux legally, which is freely available from numerous sources that aren't hidden at all?
As I stated in some of my previous posts, I'm more of a 50%-50% guy in terms of choosing an OS, and maybe some Linux users won't agree with me on this, but let me tell you things I don't like from Linux, things I think makes users want to have Windows (not in a particular order):

- Webcam support for Linux is very limited. The vast majority of IM programs like Pidgin, emesene, and some others have support for the MSN/WLM protocol, but webcam support depends on a video infrastructure called V4L/V4L2 (stands for Video For Linux), the problem is the drivers inside the kernel for these devices differ in some implementations, like colorspace, and some other features, and while some drivers are quite complete, others aren't, so having a unified API for webcam stream handling is quite a challenging task.

So far the only program handling webcam is aMSN, and even it lacks some things we can usually enjoy in our simple and out-of-problems Windows Live Messenger installation.

- The Linux graphics infrastructure (aka X.org) still inherites some of the codebase bits from XFree86 (it's a fork of it since version 4.4.0 IIRC), and even if it's quite powerful nowadays and more-or-less well defined, graphics drivers are still a relative mess, specially since new features are introduced (like XInput 2.0, MPX (multi-pointer X) and some others), they tend to make some drivers crash because they're not ready for all of those changes per se.

Windows has the advantage of having their APIs and infrastructure established from the ground up by a defined set of engineers so they have all the same objective and the same way of implementing the features they explicitly want, so it's easier to have a running graphical kernel under Windows than it actually is under Linux (it's just my opinion, of course, others may differ).

3D Acceleration is still bit of a mess depending on the driver, being the NVIDIA closed source binary the best driver out there, just followed by the Intel driver (open-source) and followed closely by the closed source Catalyst driver for ATI cards, and followed in the last place by the open source radeon driver for ATI cards, more or less this is the position they have.

- Licensing. This is something I have always being against from the beginning of my Linux adventures. While the GPL is a nice license, there's so many different licenses out there it's a mess when you're actually going to deploy a product. Closed source apps are not generally welcome (at least not by the GNU zealots, I'm sorry to say that way but it's sadly true, just try to read something on Richard Stallman VS closed source and you'll get an idea), and even gaming (something important to me, working with the OS is not about everything I want to do) poses some challenges, I'm sure we'll see Hillary Clinton working on the porn industry before we see a single EA title coming to Linux (ok, maybe my joke-ish example is quite lacking some taste, but it's just to make a point, I'm sorry if anyone felt offended by it).

So you have a strong point and I have to agree Linux is still a OS for people who has specific needs and are not tied to the set of technologies Microsoft implanted in everyone's digital life, but that doesn't mean Linux is bad or for geeks, it's just... a different OS for different needs, and I'm bit sad about it because I would like to (ideally) just have Linux for my everyday needs, but gaming and msn (among others) ties me to Windows, although I'm perfectly ok, and I'm even happy with what I've seen about Windows 7, I'm even considering the idea of legally getting it, but I won't ditch Linux, I'll use both

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Old 06-15-09, 05:51 PM   #112
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I'm sure Linux is fine if you know what you're doing but cheap netbooks are targeted at normal people who just want to browse the internet and use Facebook, Maybe its the implementation or crappy hardware, nothing the fault of the os itself but in my experience with an UBUNTU netbook was that it did not connect to the interwebs and when it did after a while it just turned itself off...

at least I was able to use the dongle on my windows PC when I needed it.

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