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Old 07-07-09, 05:50 PM   #13
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Default Re: Samsung PB22-J and other SSD's

slawter,

What do you think between the X25 and the GSkill Falcon?
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Old 07-07-09, 06:32 PM   #14
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Agreed, RAID 0 might be a good thing for some first gen SSDs. But newer disks or the Intel SSDs are much better. And all those high bandwidths of over 400MB/s aren't really necessary unless you're running a crazy ass fileserver.

Maybe I'll change my opinion once I get a second X25 but for now I think a newer single SSD is enough for a boot disk because in that case, large file size transfer rate are not important.
I don't get what you mean by "large file size transfer rates aren't important." I don't know about you, but I still like to move around large files in my folders.. do a lot of copying/pasting from one location to another. So far, I've found Raid0 to speed these transfers up a lot. Also, Photoshop loads up in about 3 seconds.

As for it benefiting only first-gen SSD's.. I'm not so sure about that, either. Overall performance is improved, including small file reads and writes. A benchmark in ATTO should show this as it tests very small files to large ones. I think, across the board, performance can improve.. even on smaller file sizes. Virus scans, general usage, shutdown times, etc were shown to be improved on high-end drives, as well:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...55&postcount=8

I look at this stuff in a simlar way as I look at multi-GPU. It won't benefit every scenario, but it'll help in some.
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RAID 0 can also overload things. Did you see [H]'s article about that from this week? Boot times went in fact up going from single drive to RAID configs...
I didn't read that, but I'm thinking it would depend on a lot of factors. The type of controller you're using, processor speed, drive model, etc. My loading times literally halved when going to Raid0. Vista loads mid-way through the 2nd bar whereas it took up to 5-6 cycles on a single drive. The desktop pops up immediately at twice the speed it did on a single drive. Shut-down times are also much, much faster.

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There is one thing I could profit from RAIDing SSDs... you get enough space to install games on it and profit there from faster load times and such.
Yep. See, I don't want any HDDs at all in my system. I'm in the process now of swapping out the Raptors for 4 Vertex drives to go with my Core drives. Too much noise, too heavy and too much power/heat. Archaic technology.
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Well the Falcon has landed . I'll slap W7b on there tonight and see how it goes. BTW, any idea which version of 7 I should be using, or is it just a matter of newer is better?
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hehe. Did you get four 120GB Vertex drives?
Heck, no. They're like 500$ apiece. I make a decent living, but not that decent. I'm going w/ smaller sizes (32/64) until the prices come down some.

Instead of going w/ a large single or two large drives, I decided to go w/ 4 smaller ones. By raiding 4 smaller Vertex drives, you'll get the increased cache (the 30GB have the same amount of cache as larger sizes) as well as a higher multi on your I/O by striping the data twice over.

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I'd like to use a SSD (or multiple SSDs in a RAID) for my gaming disk. But next up is a 20TB fileserver, a solid backup solution is more important right now. btw, I won't be using SSDs for that
Yeah, I still have a HDD backup that runs outside the case. A 1TB. Keep my OS and games on the SSDs.

Anyhow, I'm still relatively new at this, so some of what I'm counting on may not happen as I think it will. But I've done some decent research and.. well, we'll see.
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Well the new drive is pretty badass, really quick . Can't really get a propper impression as I only got W7 and a few drivers installed last night, but it boots and runs super fast and after using a RaptorX as my main drive for the last year or so it's nice not to have all the noise.

Pleased with the purchase so far, despite the cost.
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