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Old 08-02-09, 12:32 PM   #1
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Thumbs down Windows 7 ~ Windows Vista

I thought I was going to like Windows 7. Tried out the RTM though and found it is just Vista with a few small, insignificant improvements, like better options in the Defragmenter, and just as many new annoyances, like not remembering window size/position, and being stuck at 59 hertz (not 60) refresh rate no matter what you do. These 2 alone would prevent me from ever using Win7 if not fixed. Some games REQUIRE 60 hertz or they simply will not run. Battlefield series? Halo FFS! I'm not sure if it's Vista or Nvidia but the Nvidia Control Panel is a total mess in WIN7 with many broken or stuck settings.

I did not find it any faster though it may be on a lower end PC. It comes with no email client but half the old Windows Mail program's files are still sitting there...WTF? I don't care if they remove it, but....well REMOVE it, don't just break it.

Homegroups? The new more cumbersome taskbar with zero advantage over the old one? The new "shake the window" feature that drops everything else to minimized? Yeah, you'll need it now that all windows will pile up on top of each other.
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Old 08-02-09, 02:13 PM   #2
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I thought I was going to like Windows 7. Tried out the RTM though and found it is just Vista with a few small, insignificant improvements, like better options in the Defragmenter, and just as many new annoyances, like not remembering window size/position, and being stuck at 59 hertz (not 60) refresh rate no matter what you do. These 2 alone would prevent me from ever using Win7 if not fixed. Some games REQUIRE 60 hertz or they simply will not run. Battlefield series? Halo FFS! I'm not sure if it's Vista or Nvidia but the Nvidia Control Panel is a total mess in WIN7 with many broken or stuck settings.

I did not find it any faster though it may be on a lower end PC. It comes with no email client but half the old Windows Mail program's files are still sitting there...WTF? I don't care if they remove it, but....well REMOVE it, don't just break it.

Homegroups? The new more cumbersome taskbar with zero advantage over the old one? The new "shake the window" feature that drops everything else to minimized? Yeah, you'll need it now that all windows will pile up on top of each other.
Well it is Windows 6.1
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Old 08-02-09, 02:36 PM   #3
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i believe the 59hz things is actually 59.97 or something like that and in games ive always seen 60 as an option... but yea i agree that w7 is just vista with a few improvements and its a tad faster... it uses just as much ram and gaming performance is identical to vista
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Old 08-02-09, 02:41 PM   #4
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not stuck in 59 here.
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Old 08-02-09, 02:44 PM   #5
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Well I will buy Win 7 for my wife's PC. I have Vista retail so I will just reinstall it, I don't think it is worth me getting retail Win 7. I didn't really notice a performance increase either.
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Old 08-02-09, 02:49 PM   #6
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Well Win 7 appears to use less RAM for me. It also seems faster. I re-installed Vista a few weeks ago and after the two SP's, it still wasn't a great experience.

I am glad I pre-ordered Win 7.
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Old 08-02-09, 03:35 PM   #7
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I'm running 60hz with no problems, then again I'm awesome.

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Old 08-02-09, 03:51 PM   #8
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I don't know what to say besides keep using it. It's HUGE improvement over Vista.
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Old 08-02-09, 03:56 PM   #9
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I don't know what to say besides keep using it. It's HUGE improvement over Vista.
Oh rly?
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Old 08-02-09, 05:03 PM   #10
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And let the pre-whining begin!
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Old 08-02-09, 05:22 PM   #11
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Oh rly?
Yes, yes it is. Vista was buggy as hell and still is.

Yes, every enthusiast on this forum can and does get it to work well but point is - the common people using PC's don't. They can barely turn on the computer let alone ATTEMPT anything we discuss on this forum.

Point is - for the average user, it was a pain in the ass. W7 completely re-defines Vista and while it isn't a "new" O/S, it brings a lot to the table, including an easier experience for the end user.

Go with W7. Anyone who wouldn't install it over Vista, well, have fun with Vista. The failed O/S.
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Im with Bearshank on this one.

Vista is fine and dandy well before sp3 once you spent a thousand trips to google for tips and tricks cuz your that good at it.

7 is a wakeup call to those who forgot about what xp was or what Vista should of been, yea Longhorn right.

I enjoy the new 7 but i love that vista bar alot more.
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