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Old 09-07-09, 02:59 AM   #1
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Angry 190.32 - the return of the "black window" bug

Hi,

No NVIDIA driver so far has solved this problem. It has been worse with some incarnations or has shown up with different symptoms (window content no refreshing).

With 190.32 the dreaded black window effect is finally back in full beauty. Just as a reminder the effects are theses:
  • new windows open with solid black content
  • recalling windows from minimization opens then with solid back content
  • resizeing windows beyond a certain threshold turns the content into solid black

In all cases reducing the window size beyond a certain threshold will restore content.

This bug has been present for more than two years and has been reported by several people.

NVIDIA: instead of adding more and more features, FIX THIS BUG

a very annoyed NVIDIA user
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Old 09-07-09, 11:08 AM   #2
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Default Re: 190.32 - the return of the "black window" bug

You have unclean unistallation in system - still some symlinks to 180.11 exist and prevents proper uninstallation of old drivers ( pakage manager aborts ) and mess with installation of new drivers ( did you seen your own nvidia-bug-report.log? there's complains of installer about this ).

You must clean you system from that first.
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Old 09-07-09, 11:29 AM   #3
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Default Re: 190.32 - the return of the "black window" bug

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You have unclean unistallation in system
No i don't. I might have an old NVIDIA installer directory laying around, but the driver that came with it has been removed from the system long ago. The current installation on my workstation are pristine Ubuntu packages from the Ubuntu NVIDIA ppa. I have another, identical test box where i did a fresh install of the 190.32 driver with the same results.

So, whatever the installer says, it is not the cause of the problems.

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Old 09-07-09, 12:11 PM   #4
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Default Re: 190.32 - the return of the "black window" bug

So maybe you should bug report to this PPA private developer who does DEB pakage of NVIDIA drivers instead?

I've done 190.18.03 to 190.32 upgrade second ago and no problem. In fact I've never had any problem with nVidia dirvers but then I've allways used either Ubuntu package or nVidia installer. I've never used some private PPA packages.

what's the result of command
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find /usr/lib -iname *nvidia* -print
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Old 09-07-09, 12:18 PM   #5
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Default Re: 190.32 - the return of the "black window" bug

I think dk75 is right. i was looking over your log file and comparing to results i get, besides the errors he mentions on the installer log, there was also this line that jumped out at me:
Attribute 'OpenGLVersion' (ws-aschultz:0.0): 2.1.2 NVIDIA 190.32

mine shows:

Attribute 'OpenGLVersion' (anonymous:0.0): 3.2.0 NVIDIA 190.32

190.32 drivers support up to OpenGL 3.2 no?
also, there's a lot of "will not be uninstalled" errors at the beginning of your log. But i'm sure someone with more experience on this can clarify why you would have all these errors during install. the OpenGL version jumped at me though.
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Old 09-07-09, 12:35 PM   #6
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I think dk75 is right. i was looking over your log file and comparing to results i get, besides the errors he mentions on the installer log, there was also this line that jumped out at me:
Attribute 'OpenGLVersion' (ws-aschultz:0.0): 2.1.2 NVIDIA 190.32

mine shows:

Attribute 'OpenGLVersion' (anonymous:0.0): 3.2.0 NVIDIA 190.32

190.32 drivers support up to OpenGL 3.2 no?
2.1.2 is normal for that card. It'll only report 3.2.0 when you are running an 8000 series or newer card.
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Old 09-07-09, 12:47 PM   #7
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2.1.2 is normal for that card. It'll only report 3.2.0 when you are running an 8000 series or newer card.
Oh ok thanks for explaining! back to lurk mode for me
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Old 09-08-09, 03:32 AM   #8
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dk75: try running a GeForce 7300 LE, (128MB RAM on card, 512MB shared with main memory) card with a dual-screen setup with a total resolution of 3200x1200 pixels, 24bit colors and you will be able to reproduce the problem.

With the 190.32 it takes 1x Firefox (about10 tabs open), 2x EMACS, 1x Evolution, 3 console windows (with about 5 tabs) each to reliably reproduce the problem.

With 185.18.36, a takes A LOT more windows before problem arise, but at some point they will.

At the same time, top and xrestop report sufficient free remaining memory. So it is not a problem with free memory, but it might be a problem with being able to utilize that free memory.

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Old 09-08-09, 01:46 PM   #9
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Default Re: 190.32 - the return of the "black window" bug

Similar problem here with my Go7300 laptop. I have not seen this problem for a long time, until installing 190.32. The previous versions have been fine.

I don't see stray files in my bug log and I always use the nvidia installer. Please check mine attached.

I think it's definitely a regression on 7xxx series cards.

Guess I'll try 190.25 and see if it helps.

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Old 09-08-09, 02:13 PM   #10
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Default Re: 190.32 - the return of the "black window" bug

OK, just to report back that on 190.25 I have 13 apps open (including goog-earth) with 5 tabs in firefox and get no black windows. No difference from full screen or reduced. Unless my (previous) bug report shows something wrong with the 190.32 installation, I have to conclude it's a regression.

btw, this is the second time I've noticed this black window problem on 190.32. It happened after the first boot when I opened a couple evince windows, so I uninstalled and reinstalled it, but didn't use it much over the weekend again until today.

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Old 09-08-09, 02:39 PM   #11
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OK. So I can't test because I have desktop 9500GT card.
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Old 09-09-09, 03:15 AM   #12
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Go7300: i guess you are not running a large dual-screen resolution?

I had what appears to be a variation for the this bug with all 180.xx, 185.xx and 190.xx drivers.

New windows will open, their initial content will be shown, but the application appears to be non responsive to any user actions, until one shrinks the window. At that point it becomes clear that the application actually did respond (i.e. Firefox opened a new tab), but that the actual windows content had not been updated.

The amount of applications and windows required to trigger it varies.
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