Can't go from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit Win 7 with Upgrade Edition - Page 2

ViN86 · 10-24-09, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by betterdan

Huh? Not sure what you arer talking about Vin86. What upgrade key and what retail disc?

Vista I had an upgrade CD Key. I borrowed a retail disc from my friend to and used that to install with my own key. It worked. I think it will be the same for Win 7.

The only issue is getting your hands on the retail disc.

10-24-09, 09:43 AM

Ok so by retail disc you mean full install disc? You do know you can buy the upgrade disc via retail also, right? That's what was confusing me.

I think I read someone said the upgrade key wouldn't work with a full install disc.

ViN86 · 10-24-09, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by betterdan

Ok so by retail disc you mean full install disc? You do know you can buy the upgrade disc via retail also, right? That's what was confusing me.

I think I read someone said the upgrade key wouldn't work with a full install disc.

Yes, but typically the discs are called Retail, OEM, and Upgrade hehe

Imbroglio · 10-24-09, 10:18 AM

there are two ways around this, i'm not sure of the legality of either, but you won't here about these in forums.

1) download a vista64 iso via a torrent. since vista64 doesn't require a key to install, you'll be able to make a boot disc, install vista-64 and then unpack your win7 install files and create a bootable iso. repeat process for win7 and voila

2) install win7 64bit RC to extract files and rinse and repeat.

I'm assuming you're talking about the student files that you got as a download. Everyone was expecting iso files and instead everyone got a bunch of files that won't allow you to extract in a 32-bit environment. (you can do this install via a vmware virtual server too to make your life easier if you have the space

)

ms and digital river didn't really think that one through too well.

ViN86 · 10-24-09, 10:24 AM

Yea you can install Vista without a CD Key, it will just go into a trial period. That should work.

ViN86 · 10-24-09, 12:44 PM

Use this trick:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...91#post2110491

10-24-09, 04:00 PM

Uhh guys the original poster already solved his problem. Instead of running the upgrade disc from within Windows he just booted with the cd and upgraded that way. No fancy tricks needed

Viventis · 10-24-09, 04:28 PM

I hate that you can't change the original title once you start a thread! I still can't believe that neither tech at MS knew you could do it. One even sent an email confirming his "advice." Here is the email. They told me that I would have to purchase the full retail of Win 7 to get the 64 bit version on my system.

Hi Gary Young,

This is Anay Suneel Joshi with Microsoft Windows Technical Support.

It was my pleasure to work with you on your Windows service request 1115167616. Unfortunately, we were unable to resolve your issue. However, I hope that you were happy with the service provided to you.

I will archive the service request as Not-Resolved. If you are not happy with the support we've provided please let us know as soon as possible. My goal is to ensure that your experience with Microsoft Windows Technical Support leaves you pleased with our products and services.

Here is a summary of the key points of the service request for your records:

Action: Upgrade to win7 64 bit
Result: Unsuccessful
Cause: Invalid Upgrade Path
Resolution: Windows Vista 32 bit cant be upgraded to Windows7 64 bit

If you have any feedback regarding Microsoft support, we would be glad to hear from you. If you would feel more comfortable speaking with someone else regarding my service, Tabrez Shaikh, my manager, would be very happy to hear your comments and suggestions. You may reach my manager by sending an email to v-2tabs@mssupport.microsoft.com

Thank you for contacting Microsoft Windows Technical Support.

Sincerely,

Anay Suneel Joshi
v-2anayj@mssupport.microsoft.com
0600-1500 PST

*When replying please include your SR number, name, email address and phone number. Thank you.*

You asked us to make everyday tasks faster and easier, to make your PC work the way you want it to, and to make it possible to do new things. And that's exactly what we've done. Learn more about Windows 7®!

10-27-09, 04:47 AM

He is right though, you cannot do an upgrade from Vista 32 to Windows 7 64. You can use the upgrade disc to do a custom (fresh) install but you cannot do an in place upgrade install.

This is where the wording gets tricky.

Viventis · 10-29-09, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by betterdan

He is right though, you cannot do an upgrade from Vista 32 to Windows 7 64. You can use the upgrade disc to do a custom (fresh) install but you cannot do an in place upgrade install.

This is where the wording gets tricky.

The email is technically correct, but most of the phone call was about whether there was any way I could use the Upgrade version to install Win 7-64 on my computer...fresh install included.

I was told that if I could not use the Upgrade disc to install after booting to the disc. I would get an error (like in Vista if you put in the CD key during the boot install) that my version of Windows can only be installed from within Windows. I was told I needed to purchase a Full Retail version of Win 7 to install in a boot. That was where he was wrong. Unlike Vista, Win 7 Upgrade Edition internally checks elligibility during a boot install.

10-24-09, 09:43 AM	#14
betterdan Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Can't go from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit Win 7 with Upgrade Edition Ok so by retail disc you mean full install disc? You do know you can buy the upgrade disc via retail also, right? That's what was confusing me. I think I read someone said the upgrade key wouldn't work with a full install disc.

10-24-09, 10:18 AM	#16
Imbroglio xeroyphyte Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,271	Re: Can't go from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit Win 7 with Upgrade Edition there are two ways around this, i'm not sure of the legality of either, but you won't here about these in forums. 1) download a vista64 iso via a torrent. since vista64 doesn't require a key to install, you'll be able to make a boot disc, install vista-64 and then unpack your win7 install files and create a bootable iso. repeat process for win7 and voila 2) install win7 64bit RC to extract files and rinse and repeat. I'm assuming you're talking about the student files that you got as a download. Everyone was expecting iso files and instead everyone got a bunch of files that won't allow you to extract in a 32-bit environment. (you can do this install via a vmware virtual server too to make your life easier if you have the space ) ms and digital river didn't really think that one through too well. __________________ HT: 360 -- Sony60A3000 -- Onkyo SR605 --> Polk cs2, monitor 60s and monitor 40s w/ Bic F12 sub -- PS3 XBL:Mr X3r0 -- PSN:Mr_X3r0 Rig- Asus P6X58D Premium - intel i7 920 @3.6 - EVGA GTX570 - Corsair HX1000 - Prolimatech Mega Shadow - WD640 - COOLER MASTER ATCS 840 - OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 1600*

10-24-09, 10:24 AM	#17
ViN86 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,486	Re: Can't go from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit Win 7 with Upgrade Edition Yea you can install Vista without a CD Key, it will just go into a trial period. That should work.

10-24-09, 12:44 PM	#18
ViN86 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,486	Re: Can't go from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit Win 7 with Upgrade Edition Use this trick: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...91#post2110491

10-24-09, 04:00 PM	#19
betterdan Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Can't go from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit Win 7 with Upgrade Edition Uhh guys the original poster already solved his problem. Instead of running the upgrade disc from within Windows he just booted with the cd and upgraded that way. No fancy tricks needed

10-24-09, 04:28 PM	#20
Viventis Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 267	Re: Can go from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit Win 7 with Upgrade Edition I hate that you can't change the original title once you start a thread! I still can't believe that neither tech at MS knew you could do it. One even sent an email confirming his "advice." Here is the email. They told me that I would have to purchase the full retail of Win 7 to get the 64 bit version on my system. Hi Gary Young, This is Anay Suneel Joshi with Microsoft Windows Technical Support. It was my pleasure to work with you on your Windows service request 1115167616. Unfortunately, we were unable to resolve your issue. However, I hope that you were happy with the service provided to you. I will archive the service request as Not-Resolved. If you are not happy with the support we've provided please let us know as soon as possible. My goal is to ensure that your experience with Microsoft Windows Technical Support leaves you pleased with our products and services. Here is a summary of the key points of the service request for your records: Action: Upgrade to win7 64 bit Result: Unsuccessful Cause: Invalid Upgrade Path Resolution: Windows Vista 32 bit cant be upgraded to Windows7 64 bit If you have any feedback regarding Microsoft support, we would be glad to hear from you. If you would feel more comfortable speaking with someone else regarding my service, Tabrez Shaikh, my manager, would be very happy to hear your comments and suggestions. You may reach my manager by sending an email to v-2tabs@mssupport.microsoft.com Thank you for contacting Microsoft Windows Technical Support. Sincerely, Anay Suneel Joshi v-2anayj@mssupport.microsoft.com 0600-1500 PST When replying please include your SR number, name, email address and phone number. Thank you. You asked us to make everyday tasks faster and easier, to make your PC work the way you want it to, and to make it possible to do new things. And that's exactly what we've done. Learn more about Windows 7®!

10-27-09, 04:47 AM	#21
betterdan Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Can't go from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit Win 7 with Upgrade Edition He is right though, you cannot do an upgrade from Vista 32 to Windows 7 64. You can use the upgrade disc to do a custom (fresh) install but you cannot do an in place upgrade install. This is where the wording gets tricky.