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Old 11-15-09, 04:34 PM   #37
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Yes, you should, because it's yours to do as you please. You buy it, you own it. That's like saying Microsoft will disable Windows if you have illegal software of any kind when you go online.

I'm pretty sure if this was the case for WIndows, people would be very pissed, saying 'it's a breach of our rights'.
If that is in the terms agreement when you purchase a Windows OS or any of its products then why would you go online with illegal software? To some extent they already do that with the Genuine Authentication software they have installed in Windows.

What rights are you exactly talking about? The software is not legally yours. You lose your rights when you break the Terms of Agreement.
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Old 11-15-09, 04:50 PM   #38
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If that is in the terms agreement when you purchase a Windows OS or any of its products then why would you go online with illegal software? To some extent they already do that with the Genuine Authentication software they have installed in Windows.

What rights are you exactly talking about? The software is not legally yours. You lose your rights when you break the Terms of Agreement.
They can put whatever they like in the EULA or agreements, it doesn't have to be legal, only a court can judge that.

The software not being legally yours is not the issue here and LIVE shouldn't ever be allowed to say otherwise. Should your IP ban you from the internet because you play illegal games on-line?, noway!

If you had a Xbox modded to get you a Gold LIVE account then yes, they can ban you, but they shouldn't for playing one illegal game.
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So you should be able to mod the system to play illegally downloaded games just because you own it? They aren't banning you from playing games, you just can't download from Live or play online. Abuse the system and pay the consequence.
not sure about that part, but i say, you should be able to mod it.


i modded my original xbox, and it was great investment, at least i discovered XBMC, made the useless little box usable.

first Xbox Media Player, that turned into Xbox Media Center and that made the way to XBMC, Plex, MediaPortal and few others. all thanks to modded xboxes.
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not sure about that part, but i say, you should be able to mod it.


i modded my original xbox, and it was great investment, at least i discovered XBMC, made the useless little box usable.

first Xbox Media Player, that turned into Xbox Media Center and that made the way to XBMC, Plex, MediaPortal and few others. all thanks to modded xboxes.
Well I was just referring to using the mod to play pirated games but because of the pirates mods for uses like that people can't enjoy.
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Old 11-15-09, 09:59 PM   #41
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not sure about that part, but i say, you should be able to mod it.


i modded my original xbox, and it was great investment, at least i discovered XBMC, made the useless little box usable.

first Xbox Media Player, that turned into Xbox Media Center and that made the way to XBMC, Plex, MediaPortal and few others. all thanks to modded xboxes.
I think people should have the right to mod their machines if they want. They bought the hardware, it's theirs to do whatever they want with.

But MS also has the right to ban people from XBL who have modded their systems. It's their service and you have to agree to their terms to use it.
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Old 11-16-09, 07:04 AM   #42
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Microsoft to a degree has the right to tell you what to do and not to do. They can ban anyone who wears red socks while playing an XBox if they choice to put it in their license agreement.

It's all about power in the end and I think users need to know how to get some of that power back.
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Old 11-16-09, 07:26 AM   #43
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They can ban anyone who wears red socks while playing an XBox if they choice to put it in their license agreement.
Nooooo... they can put whatever they want in those agreements but it doesn't mean it is a real legal obligation, and they can't put anything in outside the scope of the service or product's use.
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Where in the license agreement does it say XBox LIVE accounts can be disabled because of a modded box and illegal games?

I remember modding my PS1 to play imported games, since they were better and fullscreen.
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Old 11-16-09, 11:46 AM   #45
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Where in the license agreement does it say XBox LIVE accounts can be disabled because of a modded box and illegal games?

I remember modding my PS1 to play imported games, since they were better and fullscreen.
Do they really need to say it? You're playing burnt games on there service. Its like complaining that you cant play your illegally downloaded copy of MW2 over Steam.
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Old 11-16-09, 11:54 AM   #46
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Yeah i cant believe people actually claim they have a right to burn illegal games and even less play them on live which microsoft can do what they want cause its their system if they wanna ban 1million illegal modded 360s then they can do that.
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Old 11-16-09, 04:59 PM   #47
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haha, it is back firing

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I was at GameStop the other day and listened to a customer's questions about Microsoft's banning of modded X-Box 360s. The worker tried to explain that this banning was for those people that hacked their X-Box 360. The customer was worried that if her child downloaded any kind of content through the X-Box 360 that this might constitute a reason for a banning for her son's system. She was confused, so she decided to purchase a PS3 instead. I was told by the manager at that GameStop that this was not an isolated incident. They had received over 50 calls that day about the banning.

What Microsoft appears to have forgotten by earmarking this time of year for the banning of modded X-Box 360s is that most of the systems that are purchased this time of year is by parents and grandparents. The game systems that are purchased this time of year are usually done by those that do not have a firm grasp on the industry. Simply put, the systems are usually purchased by people that are fairly clueless about video games.
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Old 11-16-09, 07:08 PM   #48
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Don't really have a problem with microsoft banning people using pirated games, but I'm assuming they're planning on banning everyone with a modded console(regardless of whether they've resorted to piracy or not)?
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