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Old 12-12-09, 01:15 PM   #13
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Yep, agreed.

my only worry WRT AMD is mobo reviews and out of the box reliability. They don't seem as consistent as intel based chipsets.

But I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
If my experience can be any encouragement to you- don't believe all the "gossip".

For every Intel rig I've owned, I've probably owned 20 AMD rigs. That's an exaggeration- but you get my point.

I might be a bit biased, but if I were in the market right now I'd be buying AMD all the way. Their processors are far faster than what near any gamer would need, and their motherboards are perfectly stable. Just like with any platform, you can run across the occassional bad apple- and some of AMD's chipsets aren't geared for enthusiast which is why many people whom purchase them are disappointed. Read up on their chipsets and learn which one will best suit your needs, and then make the purchase.

I've built many new AMD rigs for friends and family over the past year. If it weren't for the unbelievable deal I got on this i7 setup through my work- I'd be rocking a Phenom II BE on an AM3 mobo right now.
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Old 12-12-09, 02:26 PM   #14
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Well, I do believe in erring on the side of caution, but I wouldn't be planning on going with the platform if I believed all the gossip.

I'm just planning on some serious research into the respective partners boards at the time of purchase.
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Old 12-12-09, 02:47 PM   #15
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Well, I do believe in erring on the side of caution, but I wouldn't be planning on going with the platform if I believed all the gossip.

I'm just planning on some serious research into the respective partners boards at the time of purchase.
That is wise. If I can aid you in your research at all, I'd be glad to help.
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Old 12-12-09, 03:08 PM   #16
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That is wise. If I can aid you in your research at all, I'd be glad to help.
I will definitely let you know.
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Old 12-12-09, 06:43 PM   #17
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I bought a new computer a month and a half ago (last part arrived just last week)
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1. Antec Three Hundred Mini Tower Gaming Case 300 ATX 3X5.25 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB & Audio 1

2. Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA2 3.5IN 8.5MS 7200RPM 16MB Hard Drive OEM *3YR MFR Warranty* 1

3. Corsair Professional HX750W 750W ATX 12V 62A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply Active PFC 140MM Fan 1

4. ASUS R.O.G. Crosshair III Formula ATX AM3 790FX/SB750 2XPCI-E16 3XPCI-E 1XPCI CrossFireX Motherboard 1

5. Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366 LGA775 LGA1156 120MM 1

6. AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Quad Core Processor AM3 3.4GHZ 8MB Cache 140W 45NM Retail Box 1

8. 42747 G.SKILL F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH Ripjaws PC3-12800 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1600 CL7-7-7-24 Core I5 Memory Kit 2

10. BenQ E2420HD 24IN 16:9 Widescreen Black LCD Monitor 2MS 50000:1 1920X1080 2XHDMI DVI *IR-$10* 1

11. Liteon IHAS124 24X DVD Writer SATA Black OEM 1

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7. XFX Radeon HD 4650 600MHZ 1GB 1GHZ DDR2 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDCP TV Out Video Card 1

While I waited for

1 44304 ASUS Radeon HD 5870 850MHZ 1GB GDDR5 4.8GHZ 2XDVI HDMI Display Port DIRECTX11 PCI-E Video Card 1

Which ended up being a Diamond card (do to massive backorders). I'm running Windows 7 x64 on it, it is extremely stable (and quiet, with power management turned on).

Also picked up a APC VA1300BX (UPS), and a wacom bamboo pen and touch as well.
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Old 12-12-09, 06:48 PM   #18
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Wow. Nice setup, dude.
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Old 12-12-09, 07:03 PM   #19
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First new PC in five years, wanted to buy a pc that would last another five.

Some pictures, sans the 5870, UPS, and tablet.
http://lyme.shawwebspace.ca/photos/v..._ii_x4_965be_/

Also the cpu is the C2 stepping, and that is 8gigs of ram.

Oh, and the bag the PSU comes in, is velvet.
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Old 12-12-09, 08:25 PM   #20
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I bought a new computer a month and a half ago (last part arrived just last week)
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1. Antec Three Hundred Mini Tower Gaming Case 300 ATX 3X5.25 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB & Audio 1

2. Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA2 3.5IN 8.5MS 7200RPM 16MB Hard Drive OEM *3YR MFR Warranty* 1

3. Corsair Professional HX750W 750W ATX 12V 62A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply Active PFC 140MM Fan 1

4. ASUS R.O.G. Crosshair III Formula ATX AM3 790FX/SB750 2XPCI-E16 3XPCI-E 1XPCI CrossFireX Motherboard 1

5. Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366 LGA775 LGA1156 120MM 1

6. AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Quad Core Processor AM3 3.4GHZ 8MB Cache 140W 45NM Retail Box 1

8. 42747 G.SKILL F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH Ripjaws PC3-12800 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1600 CL7-7-7-24 Core I5 Memory Kit 2

10. BenQ E2420HD 24IN 16:9 Widescreen Black LCD Monitor 2MS 50000:1 1920X1080 2XHDMI DVI *IR-$10* 1

11. Liteon IHAS124 24X DVD Writer SATA Black OEM 1

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Ordered
7. XFX Radeon HD 4650 600MHZ 1GB 1GHZ DDR2 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDCP TV Out Video Card 1

While I waited for

1 44304 ASUS Radeon HD 5870 850MHZ 1GB GDDR5 4.8GHZ 2XDVI HDMI Display Port DIRECTX11 PCI-E Video Card 1

Which ended up being a Diamond card (do to massive backorders). I'm running Windows 7 x64 on it, it is extremely stable (and quiet, with power management turned on).

Also picked up a APC VA1300BX (UPS), and a wacom bamboo pen and touch as well.
I had to LOL! I bolded what we have in common, and your mobo, proc and a 5970 is what's on my wish list.

Good taste in pc parts man!
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Old 12-12-09, 08:43 PM   #21
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I'd have to go with the Phenom. You get a motherboard with full 16x + 16x PCIe support and IMO, a more guaranteed OC. I have a couple of friends with i5 750's and both couldn't get past 3.6GHz and at those clocks they ran a bit too hot for my liking even with good air cooling.

I was all for the i5's before seeing that, but at this price point I think AMD are offering a better solution.
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Old 12-12-09, 09:25 PM   #22
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I had to LOL! I bolded what we have in common, and your mobo, proc and a 5970 is what's on my wish list.

Good taste in pc parts man!
I did quite a lot of research to ensure I was going to be happy with the amount of money I was spending.
The DVD drive was simply because I've used a lot of liteon drives and it was cheap.
The aftermarket heat sink is because I want as close to silent operation during non-use as possible, and most stock heat sinks are quite noisy. It just (with little clearance) fits into the case (no side fan).
The memory was comparatively cheap among my top brand choices.
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Old 12-12-09, 10:23 PM   #23
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Not sure what you mean, but I'm pretty sure Shamrock means unlocked multiplier, which all Black editions have. Their dual core Blacks have them as well, so being a quad isn't really pertinent unless I'm missing your meaning?
^^ I meant this. regarding BE
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I'd have to go with the Phenom. You get a motherboard with full 16x + 16x PCIe support and IMO, a more guaranteed OC. I have a couple of friends with i5 750's and both couldn't get past 3.6GHz and at those clocks they ran a bit too hot for my liking even with good air cooling.

I was all for the i5's before seeing that, but at this price point I think AMD are offering a better solution.
You're friends either don't know what their doing or got unlucky. I the 750 is a superior chip in pretty much every aspect to the 965. That being said, the AM3 platform will probably have more longevity (and it's not like the 965 is bad lol).
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