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Old 01-13-10, 09:04 PM   #25
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The soundtrack is tempting, but I will keep my preorder for the boxed edition on Amazon. I am in the mood lately to actually own my games.
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Old 01-13-10, 09:52 PM   #26
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bought the standard version on steam, the DDE looks like a complete waste
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Old 01-13-10, 09:55 PM   #27
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I really don't see the value in retail copies anymore. The thing about Steam is that if you have your Steam folder on another (non-OS) drive, the Steam app still works without a reinstall and all your games still work, even if the folder is moved. The second you finish a clean install, all your games are ready to go.

I think Bioware deserves the extra $10 for the digital deluxe version. I hope they have really good pre-sales.
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Old 01-13-10, 09:57 PM   #28
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bought the standard version on steam, the DDE looks like a complete waste
I totally agree. Most people don't care about the fluff crap like the sound track or video interviews, and a couple of special gear pieces is not worth $10. But, I do think Bioware deserves the extra $10. I paid the extra $10 out of respect. I wanted to say "thank you" for making one heck of a game.
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Old 01-13-10, 11:09 PM   #29
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I really don't see the value in retail copies anymore. The thing about Steam is that if you have your Steam folder on another (non-OS) drive, the Steam app still works without a reinstall and all your games still work, even if the folder is moved. The second you finish a clean install, all your games are ready to go.
It's not like reinstalling from a disc is some massive hassle. Steam is an account, you have no consumer protections. As more and more people go digital it gives more and more power to companies over your gaming, rather than you. That bothers a lot of people, myself included.

Steam has some massive downsides in other words, it's not the amazing holy grail some make it out to be.
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It's not like reinstalling from a disc is some massive hassle. Steam is an account, you have no consumer protections. As more and more people go digital it gives more and more power to companies over your gaming, rather than you. That bothers a lot of people, myself included.

Steam has some massive downsides in other words, it's not the amazing holy grail some make it out to be.
Does it irk you sometimes that you "own" 200+ games on Steam? lol
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Does it irk you sometimes that you "own" 200+ games on Steam? lol
Yes.

I was a massive supporter for a while there. Still am to some extent. That doesn't stop me from realizing what it is though, and from having a slow change of heart over the last few months.
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Yes.

I was a massive supporter for a while there. Still am to some extent. That doesn't stop me from realizing what it is though, and from having a slow change of heart over the last few months.
This is part of why I mostly just buy old, cheap or independent games on Steam any more.

I prefer my high-value games to come with a box and with a guarantee that I'll actually be able to play the game 20 years from now if I want.
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This is part of why I mostly just buy old, cheap or independent games on Steam any more.

I prefer my high-value games to come with a box and with a guarantee that I'll actually be able to play the game 20 years from now if I want.
Exactly.

And Steam fans will tell you they will unlock the games if Steam ever fails, but I doubt that carries weight past Valve's own titles and it's still just a promise, not a legal contract. The Steam agreement actually says they can take your games away at any time, for any reason, without justification.

One story I read from a trusted source recently talked about the hidden DRM in some Steam games, they forget to put the DRM info up on day one so you buy a game, like say Risen, assuming it is only Steam protected and then BAM, Tages comes up and wants activated. Since the info was not on the sale page you demand a refund and are told no, Steam does not do refunds. So you complain to your card company and they agree, the info was not there when you bought the game and that is fraud, so they remove the charge. What does Steam do? They revoke your entire account... every game you ever "bought."

It's just scary, having a company holding your games for you and saying "don't worry buddy, we'll never screw you over unless you deserve it!" I don't like it.

Mass Effect 2 on disc has no DRM other than a simple disc check and they can NEVER take it away, never stop me from selling it, never stop me from lending it, it is MINE, a copy of the game I OWN.

I like that.
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Well I don't have a Disc Drive so Steam for me!
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Well I don't have a Disc Drive so Steam for me!
Yeah velvet, don't go on spreading gloom and doom about Steam around here.

Staem for me too!




20 years from now I'll never play these primitive games anyway. I'll be ingame myself piloting my own avatar, running around in an alien forest wearing only a thong. I'll have a blue skin like the smurfs.
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20 years from now I'll never play these primitive games anyway. I'll be ingame myself piloting my own avatar, running around in an alien forest wearing only a thong. I'll have a blue skin like the smurfs.
They already have that at Dave and Busters I think.
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