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Old 01-14-10, 12:15 PM   #13
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high refresh HDTV will be the norm way before the resolution will change.
Current HDTV are 60, 120 and 240Hz. 240 will soon be the norm, which opens correct 3D possibilities (120Hz per eye).

As far as the console/PC war, console are cheaper and a better return on gaming dollars spent. Sure, high end PCs will always beat them, but at what price? Even the PS3 came out at $600, which was considered outrageous, but this is barely a mid-range price for a gaming PC...
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Old 01-14-10, 12:29 PM   #14
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plus it seems it takes at least 2 years after release for the programmers to figure out all the tricks of optimizing the system and pushing it to its limits
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Old 01-14-10, 03:24 PM   #15
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As far as the console/PC war, console are cheaper and a better return on gaming dollars spent
Show me your math

EVERYONE already has a PC!

If they add a $120 graphics card they have a gaming PC.

PC games are cheaper than console games.
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ive spent money on console games but never play them because consoles suck
hardly a great return on money spent.
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Old 01-14-10, 04:17 PM   #16
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Show me your math

EVERYONE already has a PC!

If they add a $120 graphics card they have a gaming PC.

PC games are cheaper than console games.
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ive spent money on console games but never play them because consoles suck
hardly a great return on money spent.
Bizzarly that actually makes sense, except for the fact that you have to upgrade your PC quite regularly unless you're smart enough to sell your old computer components off as you upgrade to new components. That isn't everyone's cup of tea, consoles certainly are easier to buy and buy for.
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Old 01-14-10, 05:26 PM   #17
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Bizzarly that actually makes sense, except for the fact that you have to upgrade your PC quite regularly unless you're smart enough to sell your old computer components off as you upgrade to new components. That isn't everyone's cup of tea, consoles certainly are easier to buy and buy for.
It depends on how high of settings you need. If you are happy with lower settings then PC gaming is likely cheaper for you, especially compared to someone who buys multiple consoles.

A hardcore console gamer who gets all consoles at launch spent $1250 on console hardware not even including accessories this gen. You can definately get a gaming PC for under that which lasts the same 5 years if you don't need max settings.
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Old 01-14-10, 05:33 PM   #18
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It depends on how high of settings you need. If you are happy with lower settings then PC gaming is likely cheaper for you, especially compared to someone who buys multiple consoles.

A hardcore console gamer who gets all consoles at launch spent $1250 on console hardware not even including accessories this gen. You can definately get a gaming PC for under that which lasts the same 5 years if you don't need max settings.

True that. My personal computer i use for internet and internet gaming is an Athlon 3200+ With 1.5gigs of DDR400 memory and a Geforce 7600GT lol.

It still plays games OK, but then again i'm into retro/indie games.
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Old 01-14-10, 08:19 PM   #19
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The problem with consoles and hardware is the stiff competition and the price that consumers want to pay. Xbox 360 and ps3 are both old hardware now and they still do not break even, they are sold at a loss in hope to undercut the competitor and gain market share. So considering how expensive top end PC hardware is, you'll never see it in consoles. That doesn't necessarily mean the hardware in consoles isn't cutting edge at the time. They do a lot of research and development to get what they want to achieve. It's just that what they were trying to achieve never was the equivalent to a top end PC.
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Old 01-14-10, 11:01 PM   #20
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No fanboy posts in this thread...

People play consoles cause they're easier. Period. Games are more expensive, but total hardware costs are cheaper. Everyone has a TV, spend $200 for a 360 and a game and voila, you have entertainment.

No one argues PC graphics are better. They always have been and always will be. But I would argue that consoles are much more efficient, in that they do more with less. Many console games today still have incredible graphics despite the fact that their hardware is very outdated. Case in point: Uncharted 2.

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No, never. Xbox 360 was like a 3 year old PC at that time.
Really? A lot of PC's had 3-core 3.2GHz processors in 2002?

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It depends on how high of settings you need. If you are happy with lower settings then PC gaming is likely cheaper for you, especially compared to someone who buys multiple consoles.

A hardcore console gamer who gets all consoles at launch spent $1250 on console hardware not even including accessories this gen. You can definately get a gaming PC for under that which lasts the same 5 years if you don't need max settings.
That's complete bull****. "Hardcore console gamer" does not mean they buy all the consoles. I would say that it just means that they get as many games as they can for their favorite console. At a $10 price difference between PC and consoles, maybe after 80 games the costs will catch up.

Anyways, you're forgetting one important aspect. Console games guarantee a certain level of performance. The same cannot be said with PC games. Try running Crysis on a 5 year old machine.

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Show me your math

EVERYONE already has a PC!

If they add a $120 graphics card they have a gaming PC.

PC games are cheaper than console games.
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ive spent money on console games but never play them because consoles suck
hardly a great return on money spent.
Seriously, you need to see the math?

Just cause you own a PC doesn't rule out its cost. Also a lot of people don't go through computers like we do (usually 2 years or less cycle). I doubt my uncle would enjoy gaming on his 1GHz Intel Celeron and 512MB of PC133 SDRAM.
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That's complete bull****. "Hardcore console gamer" does not mean they buy all the consoles. I would say that it just means that they get as many games as they can for their favorite console. At a $10 price difference between PC and consoles, maybe after 80 games the costs will catch up.

Anyways, you're forgetting one important aspect. Console games guarantee a certain level of performance. The same cannot be said with PC games. Try running Crysis on a 5 year old machine.
I never said every hardcore console gamers buys all the consoles, I said if you are one who does... so calm down there snippy pants.

And consoles do not offer a certain level of performance really, it depends on the game makers. One game might run at 60fps like Modern Warfare while another like Borderlands might run at 20-something, as I have read. The only way to really get consistent performance from games is to have a top of the line gaming PC, which is expensive of course.

In the end I view PC gaming as seperate from console gaming, sort of an either-or situation, and in that regard console gaming is not much cheaper, or even more expensive, depending on how crazy you are with it. I know now-a-days especially a lot of people game on both, that's fine, I am just speaking from my perspective and the perspective that was more common 5 or so years ago. Actually even today that poll thread showed most people here only game on PC.
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Old 01-15-10, 07:09 AM   #22
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I agree with Vin86, The Xbox 360's CPU was top notch (3 Cores w/ HT), Its still better then mosts CPUs today if you only have a dual core 2 Processor (E6600) or less. Its GPUs had technology that was not even out on PC. The Xbox 360 made me sell off my high-mid range PC at that time. As I was not going to use my PC for 1 year after the new console launch. I'm now back with PC again and happy about it, but to say they were 2 - 3 years behind PC is BS. They were about as powerfull as a gaming $2000+ machine in performance the day it came out (Xbox 360).
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Old 01-15-10, 08:13 AM   #23
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Is everyone forgetting that the Xbox 360 CPU is In-order Execution? That's a major disadvantage. You can't compare it to a modern triple core x86 CPU...
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Super Nintendo ran 2d platforming games a hell of a lot better than my 486sx did, tell you what.
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