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Old 01-14-10, 05:31 PM   #1
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Default Nvidia may see drop in global discrete graphics chip market share in 1Q10

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Nvidia is expected to see its share of the global discrete graphics chip market drop from 65% in 2009 to 60% or even lower due to strong competition from AMD, according to sources from graphics card makers.

Nvidia has refuted the claims saying it expects to see strong demand.

Although Nvidia plans to launch its 40nm Fermi-GF100 graphics chip in March 2010, mass shipments are unlikely to start until April, the sources noted. Nvidia responded saying its launch schedule remains unchanged.

On the other hand, AMD has already launched its DirectX 11-supporting 40nm ATI Radeon HD 5970, 5870, 5850 and 5750 GPUs and will launch HD 5670, 5570 and 5450 shortly. The company recently claimed to have shipped a total of two million HD 5800-series GPUs.
can't say I'm surprised...
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Old 01-14-10, 06:00 PM   #2
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And with such limited initial supply- are ya'll expecting this card to be cheap?

AMD's gonna' drop prices *drastically* and continue to out sell GTX3xx, IMO.
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Old 01-14-10, 06:36 PM   #3
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ATI doesn't even need to drop prices on the 5800 series. Their partners and sellers will just bring the prices back down to MSRP from the current price gouging going on. They will also probably release the six-input Eyefinity 5870 as well on Fermi's release to steal some additional thunder.
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Old 01-14-10, 06:42 PM   #4
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ATI doesn't even need to drop prices on the 5800 series. Their partners and sellers will just bring the prices back down to MSRP from the current price gouging going on. They will also probably release the six-input Eyefinity 5870 as well on Fermi's release to steal some additional thunder.
Either way, unless Fermi is bundled with the cure for cancer and aids, I don't see nVidia winning this round.
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Old 01-14-10, 06:56 PM   #5
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Comparing the 5670 vs the GT240, the ATI part is so much faster with more features yet so much smaller. ATI actually could drop prices to the point only they profit while Nvidia would be taking loses. Maybe its for the best if Nvidia lets market share slip than pay to keep it up.
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Old 01-14-10, 07:23 PM   #6
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Not surprised.....and good news for us all.....50/50 split would be perfect for consumers. We'd get the best prices and performance. That being said, I really can't wait for Fermi to be released.....so I can buy another 5850 @ cheapy cheapy.....
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Its so good to see AMD doing well after struggling for so long.

I hope nvidia bounces back with some kick ass products, but honestly I don't think it'd be bad at all if AMD beat them thoroughly on price.
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Yup, at this point, it's looking like "too little, too late" on the Nvidia side of things. If ATI has any sense, they will have their refresh ready by March/April to counter Fermi and I'm starting to believe that the lack of any info from Nvidia is due to the fact that Fermi is not beating the 5870 by a wide margin on average.

That doesn't mean the Fermi will be bad, but I don't see it pulling ahead by enough of a margin to make it the clear cut winner after what will be more than 6 months after the 5870's release.

Again, all speculation and JM2C.

PS : There is always the chance that we could still be surprised
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Yup, at this point, it's looking like "too little, too late" on the Nvidia side of things.
That has yet to be seen. Everybody (especially at B3D) was beating on nvidia because it seemed like Fermi would not have dedicated Tesselation hardware and everyone thought ATi would walk away the winner there with Fermi sucking at tesselation.

Besides which I couldn't care less if ATi outperformed nvidia 10 to 1, 100 to 1 or 1000 to 1, I'd still be purchasing the nvidia part not the ATi part, and I'm not alone here, not by a long shot.

ATi can go screw themselves.
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if GTX380/360 performs well I expect it will sell well. the big problem is that they won't have any DX11 parts cheaper than 360. which leaves ATI pretty much unchallenged in that market, which is the biggest market. so even if GTX380 blows 5870 away, and GTX395 blows away 5970, those kind of cards don't sell in huge volumes anyway. meanwhile ATI will be selling boatloads of 5670 etc.
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That has yet to be seen. Everybody (especially at B3D) was beating on nvidia because it seemed like Fermi would not have dedicated Tesselation hardware and everyone thought ATi would walk away the winner there with Fermi sucking at tesselation.

Besides which I couldn't care less if ATi outperformed nvidia 10 to 1, 100 to 1 or 1000 to 1, I'd still be purchasing the nvidia part not the ATi part, and I'm not alone here, not by a long shot.

ATi can go screw themselves.
So, even if the GTX360 costs as much as a 5970- you'd go nVidia?

If so, fanboyism at its finest.
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Yes, even if 360 cost as much as 5970, (which it won't). I don't get why you are so keen to compare a dual gpu card to a single GPU card BTW. I may use SLI, but I purchase single GPU cards only.

nvidia has better IQ overall, especially where texturing is concerned, it has majority consumer mindshare and developer mindshare, better drivers. They all beat out performance in my books.

I wasn't disappointed in my nv35 back in 2003 and I doubt Fermi will disappoint me in 2010.
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