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Old 03-27-10, 08:25 PM   #181
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That is good news. Hopefully we will have them some time mid year. Cannot wait to game on a 40+ screen.
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I remember how people made funny renders making the FX 5800 Ultra look like a hairdryer back then.
The FX 5800 Ultra would be a silent card in comparison now.




Honestly, there is no GPU on the market currently that has a cooling solution that is that loud... not even the GTX 480.
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I'll be waiting until drivers mature. My 260s in SLI are doing ok for now. It could be better, but I think I'll wait a bit, at least until sometime this summer.
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Well this is very interesting after reading AnandTechs review. The 480 is basically running at the same temps as the 4870x2. It's might not be such a big deal after all. As I haven't heard anyone bashing the 4870x2. Well at least, I don't now think is is the massive issue that some make it out to be.



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I think temperatures taken under gaming are more relevant than Furmark temps. Furmark will heat any graphics card out there up to 85+, so it's sort of pointless when measuring temps across cards. All of the fans are going to kick in to the max to keep the GPU from hitting its threshold temp. If you watched the video over on hardocp you can see this. GTX480's fan wound up like a turbine jet once it hit 95C and just kept getting faster and louder until the chip finally stopped heating up. It's a safety measure built into the bios to keep the GPU from overheating.

What's concerning about 480, however, is that even under regular gaming use it's still hitting temps in excess of 90C where the 5870 by comparison is about 20-25c cooler. That's fine short-term, but if the card can't operate at lower temps than that during daily use then you may as well get the RMA ready. It just won't last but so long under that kind of stress.

You have to consider the temperature window as well. Guru3D saw it idle around 45c and yet it loaded at 95c. That's a fifty.. FIFTY celsius variance in temps. That will more than likely stress the PCB, solder joints and everything else on the card when that happens repeatedly over time. It creates extra wear on the parts by expanding/contracting to such a large degree. Most cards often idle and load around a 30-35c variance. I've never seen one hit 50C before.


http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...-480-review/13

These temp problems won't effect everyone. Those who know how to cool a case will most likely be just fine. This puppy still runs way too hot for my taste, though.

Anyway, I feel this card is a mixed bag. It's far from perfect, but it's not a bust, either. It may turn out similarly to R600 in being Nvidia's transition to a more efficient GPU. Nvidia has a great track record, so I think users can feel confident that's probably the case. It's a transition chip to tide people over until the mac-daddy gets here next round.
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Which of the reviews out there show GTX470 results in SLI mode?

IF I were to purchase this cycle, SLI'd 470's are probably what I would go for, providing they provide a decent step up in performance from my SLI'd GTX280's.

I couldn't care less about how they perform compared to ATi's offerings, which I (1) don't own and (2) have no intention of owning.
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I'll be waiting until drivers mature. My 260s in SLI are doing ok for now. It could be better, but I think I'll wait a bit, at least until sometime this summer.
The 256 Release drivers will be out next month...mature enough? j/k LOL

I'm guessing that's why the driver releases have been lacking lately.
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I think temperatures taken under gaming are more relevant than Furmark temps. Furmark will heat any graphics card out there up to 85+, so it's sort of pointless when measuring temps across cards. All of the fans are going to kick in to the max to keep the GPU from hitting its threshold temp. If you watched the video over on hardocp you can see this. GTX480's fan wound up like a turbine jet once it hit 95C and just kept getting faster and louder until the chip finally stopped heating up. It's a safety measure built into the bios to keep the GPU from overheating.

What's concerning about 480, however, is that even under regular gaming use it's still hitting temps in excess of 90C where the 5870 by comparison is about 20-25c cooler. That's fine short-term, but if the card can't operate at lower temps than that during daily use then you may as well get the RMA ready. It just won't last but so long under that kind of stress.

You have to consider the temperature window as well. Guru3D saw it idle around 45c and yet it loaded at 95c. That's a fifty.. FIFTY Celsius variance in temps. That will more than likely stress the PCB, solder joints and everything else on the card when that happens repeatedly over time. It creates extra wear on the parts by expanding/contracting to such a large degree. Most cards often idle and load around a 30-35c variance. I've never seen one hit 50C before.


http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...-480-review/13

These temp problems won't effect everyone. Those who know how to cool a case will most likely be just fine. This puppy still runs way too hot for my taste, though.

Anyway, I feel this card is a mixed bag. It's far from perfect, but it's not a bust, either. It may turn out similarly to R600 in being Nvidia's transition to a more efficient GPU. Nvidia has a great track record, so I think users can feel confident that's probably the case. It's a transition chip to tide people over until the mac-daddy gets here next round.
Those gaming temps where under stress playing Crysis. In all honesty, you can't get much more stressful than that.

Also you have to take into consideration the temps form other cards that are on that list. Because in the end it is all relative. There are a handful that are just below those temps, so it's not as bad as. OMG look at those temps they will set my house on fire. Yes they are hot, more than I would like. But that won't stop me or others from considering purchasing them.
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I am extremely happy that this is NOT another Geforce FX. At least the GTX 470 and 480 seems to be doing pretty dang well in DX11. The only real loss right now is that the HD 5xxx series of cards no longer uses angle-dependant Anisotropic Filtering, while the GTX 4xx series does.

Oh well... I guess even Nvidia can't win all of them. Brute force only gets you so far in this market.
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That is a minor issue, in actual usage that isn't really noticeable. Yeah the 5xxx Series has completely Angle Independent AF, but you won't notice the difference vs the GTX 200/400 Series cards.
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For anyone with a 5870 setup, no it wouldn't be at all. But for others who have been holding out (like myself) with 200 series or earlier, yes it would be worth it. Or at least that is my opinion.
Your system can run GTX 480 SLI, so it may be worth it to upgrade, but I have a hard time justifying less then 70% over the previous nVidia flagship. I guess I will have to wait a little bit longer..
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