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Old 04-16-10, 01:13 AM   #409
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 Overclocking with Voltage Adjustment

Not exactly practical as even the reviewer said but still very interesting read.
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Guru3d are at it again, this time volting up and OCing a 470.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/overcl...-gpu-voltage/4
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Guru3d are at it again, this time volting up and OCing a 470.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/overcl...-gpu-voltage/4
Why does this guy (Hilbert) keep showing reviews of Fermi OC'd but not the competition overclocked? It's misleading.

We all know that Fermi scales well with an overclock, but what would be nice to see is an apples/apples comparison with the competing cards out there. I hate reviews where they OC one card and not the other. He's done this twice now--once with 480 and now 470.
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Old 04-18-10, 11:44 AM   #412
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Why does this guy (Hilbert) keep showing reviews of Fermi OC'd but not the competition overclocked? It's misleading.

We all know that Fermi scales well with an overclock, but what would be nice to see is an apples/apples comparison with the competing cards out there. I hate reviews where they OC one card and not the other. He's done this twice now--once with 480 and now 470.
I think that should be done with any review where overclocking is included. If you decide to include overclocking results of a 5870 in a 5870 review, the 470 and 480 should be OCed too if they appear in the round up.
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Why does this guy (Hilbert) keep showing reviews of Fermi OC'd but not the competition overclocked? It's misleading.

We all know that Fermi scales well with an overclock, but what would be nice to see is an apples/apples comparison with the competing cards out there. I hate reviews where they OC one card and not the other. He's done this twice now--once with 480 and now 470.
Honesetly, overclocking seems to be kinda pointless once the 5870 or 5970 is running at the stock speeds of a 5870. I've seen minimal or zero benefits with overclocking my 5870s to 950/1320 on a 4.0GHZ I7.
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The difference for me in Stalker CoP maxed @ 1920x1200 with filtering is 37 FPS mins instead of 26 in some cases. That's 900 on the core vs 960. In other areas it might raise a 32min to 41. That's not as important as 37 vs 26 IMO. Games start to feel sluggish in the mid 20s and lower.
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Honesetly, overclocking seems to be kinda pointless once the 5870 or 5970 is running at the stock speeds of a 5870. I've seen minimal or zero benefits with overclocking my 5870s to 950/1320 on a 4.0GHZ I7.
So everybody is just wasting their times overclocking the HD 5870, every day I learn something new at this forum.

Anyway the point was already made, most people like to see the "apples/apples comparison" and if the HD 5870 shows "minimal or zero benefits with overclocking" as you stated, let the review show it.

Last November Guru3D article about the HD 5970 Overclocking Guide did show "20%~25 on top of the Radeon HD 5970 baseline performance". I can confirm 725MHz to 935MHz was an easy overclock.

I believe the 725MHz HD 5850 should overclock just about the same, with about the same performance improvement. Guru3d should have at least show the the HD 5850 overclocked since it competes with the GTX 470 which was the only OC card in the review.

Or how would you like if the $300 HD 5850 was the only OC card in the review, running faster than the GTX 470 and not much slower than the GTX 480. To me it would look like as an AMD PR job.

On top the $300 HD 5850 would run cooler and not require watercooling. Watercooling the overclocked $350 GTX 470 could just about double the cost.

From the review Verdict:
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Much like the GTX 480 OC review, please make no mistake, what we have shown you here today is not really something we can recommend with the generic (reference based air-cooled) GeForce GTX 470 unless you want to fool and play around a little of course.
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So everybody is just wasting their times overclocking the HD 5870, every day I learn something new at this forum.

Anyway the point was already made, most people like to see the "apples/apples comparison" and if the HD 5870 shows "minimal or zero benefits with overclocking" as you stated, let the review show it.

Last November Guru3D article about the HD 5970 Overclocking Guide did show "20%~25 on top of the Radeon HD 5970 baseline performance". I can confirm 725MHz to 935MHz was an easy overclock.

I believe the 725MHz HD 5850 should overclock just about the same, with about the same performance improvement. Guru3d should have at least show the the HD 5850 overclocked since it competes with the GTX 470 which was the only OC card in the review.

Or how would you like if the $300 HD 5850 was the only OC card in the review, running faster than the GTX 470 and not much slower than the GTX 480. To me it would look like as an AMD PR job.

On top the $300 HD 5850 would run cooler and not require watercooling. Watercooling the overclocked $350 GTX 470 could just about double the cost.

From the review Verdict:
I can't understnd why they wouldn't overclock both the 5870 and 5970 to compare the performance increase. It would have been logical or it should have been.
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Apples to apples.

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Who the heck is Alienbabel.
Did somebody EVER claimed that the HD 5870 is faster than the GTX 480? I don't think so.

AMD answer to GTX 480 is HD 5970.
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Who the heck is Alienbabel.
Did somebody EVER claimed that the HD 5870 is faster than the GTX 480? I don't think so.

AMD answer to GTX 480 is HD 5970.
The price difference between the 480 and 5870 is closer than between the 480 and the 5970, so comparing the two single card solutions is appropriate.

Alienbabel is a review site, not that it matters. You asked for an apples to apples comparison and I gave it to you. It also shows that overclock scaling on the 5xxx series isn't near as good as the 4xx series.
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AMD answer to GTX 480 is HD 5970.
No it's not. The 5970 was the answer to the GTX295. The GTX480 wasn't out before the 5970. How would AMD know what it even was.
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