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Old 03-29-10, 01:42 AM   #1
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Default Sony: Removing ps3 functionality to make you safer

Not like anyone really ever used the feature, but Sony is removing the ability to install the 'other' os on the ps3 http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/...-v3-21-update/

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The next system software update for the PlayStation 3 (PS3) system will be released on April 1, 2010 (JST), and will disable the “Install Other OS” feature that was available on the PS3 systems prior to the current slimmer models, launched in September 2009. This feature enabled users to install an operating system, but due to security concerns, Sony Computer Entertainment will remove the functionality through the 3.21 system software update.

In addition, disabling the “Other OS” feature will help ensure that PS3 owners will continue to have access to the broad range of gaming and entertainment content from SCE and its content partners on a more secure system.
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Old 03-29-10, 01:49 AM   #2
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haha, wasn't that one way to "hack" PS3 to load copied games?
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Old 03-29-10, 01:54 AM   #3
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Maybe, I've only got a slim and you need a fatty for that.
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Old 03-29-10, 02:15 AM   #4
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Who gives a crap? Oh noes, I cannot install garbage on my PS3 now, whatever will I do?!

Let's ignore the fact that you can't install squat on a 360... The Wii has more functionality lol.
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Who gives a crap? Oh noes, I cannot install garbage on my PS3 now, whatever will I do?!

Let's ignore the fact that you can't install squat on a 360... The Wii has more functionality lol.
What a crappy comment. Seriously. You're not making any sense and the last part doesn't have anything to do with the thread in general, but is just blatant flaming.

This was announced as a feature on the PS3 and as such it should not be removed without consequences. I'd be pissed off even if I wouldn't use it. Besides isn't it illegal to remove something that was in fact one of the core features from the start?

Really crappy of Sony to remove a feature some people are still using..
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Yeah, sorry about that. I should have thought about it. I am sure the tens of people using linux (PERIOD, not just on PS3) are saddened by this.
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Old 03-29-10, 06:34 AM   #7
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Just read this on Digg.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/108/1080373p1.html

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System update v3.21 will disable the console's "Install Other OS" feature, which allowed users to install the Linux operating system. The feature is currently only available in PlayStation 3 models released prior to the "slim" redesign that launched in September 2009. The update will go live on April 1.
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Old 03-29-10, 06:46 AM   #8
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I never got a chance to try out this feature. Guess I never will. Oh well.

And from Sony's perspective this move makes sense. They just want to prevent piracy on the platform. Disabling linux will slow down the progress made towards cracking the console.

The news a few months ago about the guy gaining control over the system was done using linux installed on the PS3.
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Yeah, sorry about that. I should have thought about it. I am sure the tens of people using linux (PERIOD, not just on PS3) are saddened by this.
Well what if these 10 people bought the game console just for its linux support? I know some people use their PS3s as HTPCs. This was an advertised feature of the PS3 and if they remove it they should offer the current owners a full refund as otherwise it could be seen as false advertising. I see a class-action lawsuit in Sony's future..
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Well what if these 10 people bought the game console just for its linux support? I know some people use their PS3s as HTPCs. This was an advertised feature of the PS3 and if they remove it they should offer the current owners a full refund as otherwise it could be seen as false advertising. I see a class-action lawsuit in Sony's future..
There's an easy solution for that. If you bought the console just for Linux support, then don't update to the latest firmware.

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haha, wasn't that one way to "hack" PS3 to load copied games?
Not yet. It was a tool people were using to learn how to load copied games, but no one has actually done anything remotely close to pirating PS3 games yet. Someone released information that they gained control of the memory a few months ago and they did it using Linux. Probably 99% of the reason the feature is being removed.
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There's an easy solution for that. If you bought the console just for Linux support, then don't update to the latest firmware.



Not yet. It was a tool people were using to learn how to load copied games, but no one has actually done anything remotely close to pirating PS3 games yet. Someone released information that they gained control of the memory a few months ago and they did it using Linux. Probably 99% of the reason the feature is being removed.
I know the update is optional, but it removes the ability to play on PSN. Sony never told the owners that you wouldn't be able to enjoy both things at the same time.

What makes it even funnier is the fact that sony promised not to kill Linux support after the Slim was announced:

http://www.haxnetwork.net/2010/03/ot...rom-phat-ps3s/

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On 02/26/2010 04:30 AM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 09:58 -0700, geoffrey.levand at am.sony.com wrote:
>> The feature of “Install Other OS” was removed from the new
>> “Slim” PS3 model to focus on delivering games and other
>> entertainment content.
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>> Please be assured that SCE is committed to continue
>> the support for previously sold models that have the
>> “Install Other OS” feature and that this feature will
>> not be disabled in future firmware releases.
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> Although it’s disappointing that Sony have removed the feature from new
> models, It’s good to have this public assurance from Sony that at least
> the feature won’t be removed from older models which are already
> working.

Please understand that in my position as PS3-Linux maintainer
I can really only provide users with technical support for
Linux and the LV1 hcall interface.

The text above was provided to me by SCE management. If
you have any questions regarding it or any other feature
of the PS3 please contact the Playstation Customer Support
in your country. Using Playstation Customer Support will
insure your inquiry is processed through the correct
channels within SCE.

-Geoff
EDIT: Did you notice the date? Could be a bad April Fools' joke.
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Well what if these 10 people bought the game console just for its linux support? I know some people use their PS3s as HTPCs. This was an advertised feature of the PS3 and if they remove it they should offer the current owners a full refund as otherwise it could be seen as false advertising. I see a class-action lawsuit in Sony's future..
And it will get thrown out pretty quick, while Sony did advertise it to the hardcore it was never in their commercials. Plus I am sure that their is a clause in their EULA (you know, that thing you never read) that states they have the right to change or remove functionality as they see fit.

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