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Old 07-19-03, 01:32 PM   #1
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Default "hiccup" issue with FX5900 Ultra, Asus A7N8X-Deluxe rev. 2.0, 1.0-4363

PROBLEM: when I am running X, some process keeps pegging my CPU to 100% every other second, like a ticking clock. This causes *everything* on the box to block,
creating a sort of 'hiccup' in which mouse, sound, graphics, all pause for a tiny slice of time. This makes gaming basically impossible, but more importantly makes interacting with the box at all something of a pain.

I'm hoping that someone here will have seen this behavior and know what is wrong; I'm concerned that I haven't seen a ton of posts about this (in fact, I've seen only one other, at nForcersHQ). *edit* - someone else has also posted to nvnews with this issue.

I've been through so much with this rig! I've even started helping other people out on #nvidia, because I've been through the instructions AGAIN and AGAIN trying to get my baby to work.

Okay, first off, my hardware specs:

Asus A7N8X-Deluxe rev2.0 (400MHz FSB)
XP2800+ (333MHz)
2 x 512MB Corsair PC3200 (underclocked to match CPU FSB)
Seagate 120GB SATA hard disk
eVGA FX5900 Ultra (flashed to reference BIOS - that was the *first* problem I had to deal with )

Kernels I have tried:
2.4.20
2.4.21-pre7-ac3
2.4.21
2.5.73
2.4.22-pre6 (which I'm using now)

Driver versions I have tried (with most of the kernels above):
1.0-4191
1.0-4349
1.0-4363

I've also tried disabling APIC, ACPI, and both APIC and ACPI with combinations of 'noapic', 'pci=noacpi', and 'acpi=off' as boot-time options to whichever kernel I was running at the time.

ANOTHER INTERESTING WRINKLE:
1.0-4191 DOES NOT exhibit this behavior. It is, however, so unstable as to be useless in its own right (hard lockups after ~30 seconds of any 3d-acceleration, hard lockups at random intervals when just running X).

Help me, nvnews.net! You are my only hope...

Here's the stuff in my /proc directory.
I've also attached my kernel config, XF86Config-4, and a log from a run of
'startx -- -logverbose 5'.

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dotanuki:~> cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 nvidia.o Kernel Module 1.0-4363 Sat Apr 19 17:46:46 PDT 2003
GCC version: gcc version 3.3 (Debian)

dotanuki:~> cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
Status: Enabled
Driver: AGPGART
AGP Rate: 8x
Fast Writes: Enabled
SBA: Disabled

dotanuki:~> cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/card
Fast Writes: Supported
SBA: Supported
AGP Rates: 8x 4x
Registers: 0x1f000e1b:0x1f004112

dotanuki:~> cat /proc/driver/nvidia/cards/0
Model: NV35
IRQ: 7
Video BIOS: 04.35.20.21.00
Card Type: AGP

dotanuki:~> cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/host-bridge
Host Bridge: PCI device 10de:01e0 (nVidia Corporation)
Fast Writes: Supported
SBA: Supported
AGP Rates: 8x 4x
Registers: 0x1f00421b:0x00000112
dotanuki:~>
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Old 07-19-03, 01:38 PM   #2
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Talking BAH.

Apparently, 'preview message' resets your file attachment.
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Old 07-22-03, 07:40 AM   #3
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Hm... aparently no one answered.
Do you think we should repost ?
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Old 07-23-03, 02:04 PM   #4
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Weird system hanging the first step is ALWAYs to look at your hdparm information. Post your hdparm -I /dev/hda information.
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Old 07-24-03, 10:31 AM   #5
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Question uhh, okay.

Here's the output of hdparm -I for each of /dev/hda, /dev/hdb, and /dev/hde.

/dev/hda IS NOT USED for anything at present, only /dev/hde is mounted, but I include it since it is plugged into the controller.
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Old 07-25-03, 09:14 AM   #6
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Default I too am having this problem.

Well, you and I have almost the same system. My mb is an abit at7-max 2. Athlon XP 2600+, 512 mb XMS Corsair 400 mhz memory (underclocked to match cpu). Prolink Geforce FX 5900 ultra 256 mb version. The main similarity of concern here is that we are both using Geforce FX 5900 ultras. This seems to be the only card that has this problem, and it's on the 4363 drivers. I know that it is the driver causing this issue because if I change the video driver in the xf86config file to the generic vesa driver, the cpu pegging goes away. If whatever is pegging your cpu is anything like mine, then it's almost to a rythm. Every other second the cpu goes from 0% usage to 100% usage according to the system monitor. They are supposedly going to release a new driver next week. Lets hope they have noticed this issue and fix it. My mb forces me to use 8x agp when I have an 8x video card installed. NVidia didn't add support for 8x until the 4363 driver, so I can't use any previous drivers, they just cause a black screen and nothing happens. I did notice that in the README file for this driver release it has a list of all the graphics card chipsets supported. The newest chipset listed is the Geforce FX 5800 ultra, so they haven't added proper support for our cards yet. Let's hope this new driver sheds some light on this issue, it's really annoying.


BTW, how did you get it to recognize your card Model as "NV35"? Mine just says "unknown"

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Old 07-25-03, 10:48 AM   #7
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Default I'm a magical being. :)

I just edited /usr/share/misc/pci.ids to contain an entry for 0x330, which is our card.
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Old 07-25-03, 11:09 AM   #8
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Default jhahn - what distro?

Which Linux distro are you running? I ask because I am beginning to suspect that this problem might be tied to Debian unstable somehow.
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Old 07-25-03, 12:12 PM   #9
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Here is my box Config:

Distribution: Debian Sid
Compiler: gcc-3.3
X11 Version: 4.3.0 (Daniel Stone's packages)
Kernel : 2.4.21 with NForce2 patches
VGA Driver : 4363

any similarities ?
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Old 07-25-03, 02:25 PM   #10
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I've had that prob before and turns out it is Nautilus. Kill the process and let it restart.

Sometimes is D4X (Downloader4X), and sometimes is any other program hanging in the background. Just hunt it down and kill the bastige.
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Old 07-25-03, 03:22 PM   #11
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Nope, I'm running slackware 9.0. I've tried both KDE and Gnome. I don't think it's nautilus just because Gnome shouldn't be running nautilus it should be running galeon. So I don't know.. maybe it is just a background process, but if that were the case, why would it stop the hiccups when I switch to the generic vesa driver?.. anyone know the command to look at all the processing that are currently running?
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Old 07-25-03, 03:52 PM   #12
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BTW, Nautilus is RH's default file manager under Gnome since 7.2
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