Go Back   nV News Forums > Hardware Forums > Rumor Mill

Newegg Daily Deals

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-14-10, 04:26 PM   #1
josiahsuarez
Registered User
 
josiahsuarez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 739
Default GTX 460

might as well start a new thread for this

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/19162/1/
Quote:
At this time, ATI is still not answering Nvidia’s Fermi generation of cards. There are no price cuts, there are no new products and for ATI it is business as usual.

One of the main reasons is the fact that the cheapest Geforce GTX 400 generation costs €270 or around that price and most users want to spend less than that on a graphics card anyway.

The soon to launch Geforce GTX 460, based on new GF104 chip might change to story. However it won’t sell for €100, it will certainly cost quite a bit more.

ATI is reportedly working on the next generation, what seems to be another 40nm chip that is supposed to come later this year, but we don’t have more details than that. The 28nm based chips from both Nvidia and ATI should be expected in 2011, most likely the first part of it, but with such transitions you simply never know.
http://www.hardocp.com/news/2010/06/...x_460_specs63/
Quote:
Rumored GTX 460 Specs?

The crew at EXPreview have posted a slide with what are supposed to be GTX460 specs.

http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/19078
Quote:
'GeForce GTX 460' specs leak out
by Cyril Kowaliski — 1:17 PM on June 14, 2010

Nvidia may have just released its GeForce GTX 465, but word around the web is that a cheaper card based on a new, smaller graphics chip is also in the works. Expreview now claims to have uncovered detailed specifications for that card, which it calls the GeForce GTX 460.

According to a screenshot of the Nvidia Control Panel in the Expreview story, this GeForce GTX 460 will feature 336 stream processors, a 675MHz core clock speed, 1350MHz shaders, and 768MB of GDDR5 RAM pushing bits at 3.6GT/s through a 192-bit memory interface. Expreview says performance will be "weaker" but not all that far off the freshly released GTX 465, which has 352 SPs, lower clock speeds, but a 256-bit memory interface and a full gig of RAM.

The GTX 460 should also be cheaper and less power-hungry than its big brother. Expreview quotes a $230 retail price, down from around $280 for the GTX 465, and it says the upcoming card's GF104 GPU will draw only 130W. At least, we assume that's 130W. The report actually says "the main core is it has about 13W TDP, and GTX465 is 150W," which looks like an obvious typo. (Getting down to 13W with GTX 465-level performance probably isn't feasible using 40-nm process technology.)
josiahsuarez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-10, 07:03 PM   #2
josiahsuarez
Registered User
 
josiahsuarez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 739
Default Re: GTX 460

http://www.nordichardware.com/compon...in-august.html
Quote:
NVIDIA GF104 GPU in July, GF106 and GF108 in August?
Graphics | 2010/06/10 13:10 | Andreas Galistel

GeForce GTX 460 looks to become the next stop for NVIDIA's Fermi architecture. GTX 460 will become the first card based on another GPU than GF100. It seems the card will launch in July and in August we should expect even more Fermi cards on the market.

The information was published by HardOCP and says that the GF104 card will cost around $230 and the card will, as predicted, overclock easily. The source doesn't provide any more details on the specifications of the card or such, but we do get some information on the smaller siblings and the GF106 GPU.

GF106 will be NVIDIA's budget Fermi GPU and two models are expected to launch in August, named 450 and 455. If they will be GeForce GTX or GeForce GTS is uncertain, but they should cost between $129-179, which means we're now just short of the entry level models.

These will in turn arrive in late August or September according to HardOCP, sporting the GF108 GPU and replace the current GeForce GTS 240 series. Names pending.NVIDIA GF104 GPU in July, GF106 and GF108 in August?
Graphics | 2010/06/10 13:10 | Andreas Galistel

GeForce GTX 460 looks to become the next stop for NVIDIA's Fermi architecture. GTX 460 will become the first card based on another GPU than GF100. It seems the card will launch in July and in August we should expect even more Fermi cards on the market.

The information was published by HardOCP and says that the GF104 card will cost around $230 and the card will, as predicted, overclock easily. The source doesn't provide any more details on the specifications of the card or such, but we do get some information on the smaller siblings and the GF106 GPU.

GF106 will be NVIDIA's budget Fermi GPU and two models are expected to launch in August, named 450 and 455. If they will be GeForce GTX or GeForce GTS is uncertain, but they should cost between $129-179, which means we're now just short of the entry level models.

These will in turn arrive in late August or September according to HardOCP, sporting the GF108 GPU and replace the current GeForce GTS 240 series. Names pending.
josiahsuarez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-10, 11:21 PM   #3
JasonPC
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,103
Default Re: GTX 460

It looks like the improved design allowed them to bump up the core clock to 675 rather than 607 Mhz. Memory clocks are also bumped up. This also squashes the rumor that they cut the SPs down to 256. So I wonder if this card will end up beating the 465 and maybe even the 470 in some situations. But it may be absolutely crippled with high resolutions/AA.
JasonPC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-10, 12:12 AM   #4
josiahsuarez
Registered User
 
josiahsuarez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 739
Default Re: GTX 460

it's all still incredibly vague with a lot of contradictory information. number of SPs, clock speeds, etc. all still in flux (maybe even Nvidia purposefully feeding contradictory information or fanbois making stuff up for a bit of news, who knows!). I just hope for ~2x speed of GTS 250 with comparable temps and I'll be happy
josiahsuarez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-10, 03:44 AM   #5
uibo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 32
Default Re: GTX 460

Quote:
Originally Posted by josiahsuarez View Post
... I just hope for ~2x speed of GTS 250 with comparable temps and I'll be happy
So basically you want something with the performance of a GTX470?

I don't see a reason for all the hope though, because it's still based on the Fermi architecture so a price-war is very unlikely.
uibo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-10, 01:39 PM   #6
josiahsuarez
Registered User
 
josiahsuarez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 739
Default Re: GTX 460

Quote:
Originally Posted by uibo View Post
So basically you want something with the performance of a GTX470?

I don't see a reason for all the hope though, because it's still based on the Fermi architecture so a price-war is very unlikely.
yeah, it may be a tall order.
I may have to wait for a refresh. still I don't think it's all that bad. GTX 465 level performance would be satisfactory, I'm just hungry for a smaller more efficient architecture. and DX11 of course, for whatever that's worth.
josiahsuarez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-10, 04:00 PM   #7
josiahsuarez
Registered User
 
josiahsuarez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 739
Default Re: GTX 460

wow, fudzilla really blew it out today

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/19199/1/
Quote:
Nvidia's GF104 is crippled from the
Written by Slobodan Simic
Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:25

Possible GTX 475 at a later date

In addition to the specs of the GTX 460 card that were leaked a while back, we managed to score additional bits and pieces of the information and it looks like that the GF104 will be crippled from the start. This leaves room for a new card that will be based on the non-crippled GF104 with full specs.

The GF104 should have 384 SPs organized as 16 clusters of 24 SPs. The leaked screenshot that Expreview.com managed to grab showed the GTX 460 with 336 SPs/CUDA Cores which means that it has 2 disabled cluster which leaves it at 336 SP. The full GF104 has a 256-bit memory interface, but with one MC block disabled you get the 192-bit memory interface seen on the leaked specs list for the GTX 460.

The leaked specs from Expreview show the GTX 460 working at 675MHz for the GPU, 1350MHz for shaders and 1800MHz (3600MHz effective) for the 768MB of GDDR5 memory paired up with a 192-bit memory interface. According to their info, the GTX 465 should have a lower TDP and it should be priced at around US $230.

This sounds a lot like the G92 which had full 128 SPs but as you remember the first card, the 8800GT had only 112 SPs, and according to our sources, there has been some talk about the possible GTX 475 based on fully enabled GF104.

We will keep our ears on Nvidia's door as more info has to appear sooner or later. You can check out the leaked GTX 460 specs here.

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/19198/1/
Quote:
Nvidia's GF104 to be on two cards
Written by Slobodan Simic
Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:06

GTX 460 and GTS 455 for starters

Rumourville has finally started to brew in relation to Nvidia's upcoming GF104, GF106 and GF108 GPUs, and we managed to hear couple of things and GF104 is now mentioned on two cards - the previously detailed GTX 460 and the yet unmentioned GTS 455.

We guess that Nvidia will try to flood the market with as many cards as they can in order to be spread across larger market segments and the GTS 455 should end up to be cheaper and of course a bit slower than the GTX 460. The good side of the story is that GF104 will have an attractive price, and we guess that GTS 455 might be end up to be quite interesting.

Of course, it is still to early to talk about any specifications as these aren't been finallized yet. Keep in mind that Nvidia might change the name at a later date but we were told that two GF104 based cards are possible.

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/19194/1/
Quote:
GF104, Geforce GTX 460 to be top overclocker
Written by Fuad Abazovic
Wednesday, 16 June 2010 12:31

The big hope

We have heard that the second generation Fermi, or the chip that we know as GF104 should have much better overclocking than the GF100. The new chip should come without the L2 cache that might be responsible for weak Fermi overclocking scores, and this should be the chip to save Nvidia's graphics pride.

GF104 will also come with rather attractive pricing, should end up significantly cheaper than Geforce GTX 465 and we would not even be surprised if GF104 based card ends up with GTS prefix.

Launch date should be sometime in late June and the cards should be available at launch. Samples are available to partners and key accounts for a while and the official launch should take place in the next two weeks, of course unless Nvidia decides to push it to July or later.
josiahsuarez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-10, 05:57 PM   #8
josiahsuarez
Registered User
 
josiahsuarez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 739
Default Re: GTX 460

http://vr-zone.com/articles/-rumour-...-490/9246.html
Quote:
Following the aftermatch of Computex, rumours about Nvidia's future cards are starting to hit the internet. First up would be the 460 card, followed by 455 and 490. The GTX 460 appears to be the odd 336 SP product, 768MB mated to a 192-bit. The 455 card - which may end up being labeled GTS or GTX - is based on GF106, and will be priced under $200 to take on the HD 5700 series. Finally, GTX 490 will be a dual-GPU product, consisting of two GF104/GTX460 cores.

While previous rumours suggested GF104 will be 240/256 SP and GF106 will be 128-160 SP, the current rumours suggest GF104 will be a far more powerful chip. The reason for the odd SP count of 336 is that the 460 could be that it is based on GF104, which realters the nature of each SM. The GF104 SM, then, contains either 16 or 48 SP - and perhaps, with some disabled for the 460 part. The full GF104 might then be a 384 SP product. The GTX 465 will almost certainly be EOLed not much following the release of the 460.

GF106 or GTS(X) 455, will take on the HD 5700 series. It is possible that the mysterious 240 SP part rumoured could be the GF106. 240 SP is right on cue with where Nvidia would like specs to be to outperform the HD 5770. There could be a further 450 or 445 cards, all under $200. Details on GF106 remain sparse at this moment. The 455 is set to release in August.

Finally, Nvidia will release a new dual-GPU flagship, the GTX 490. The better thermal characteristics of GF104 means a dual-GPU product is possible with a TDP of under 300W. However, considering the GTX 460 matches, or even slightly outperforms the GTX 465, a dual-GPU 460 will simply not be enough to take the performance crown away from the HD 5970. It will, however, close the massive gap between the GTX 480 and the HD 5970. The power consumption is described to be "extreme" and is likely to end up as 300W. It is also set to release in August.

Nvidia has been rather poor at keeping dates of late, and indeed, it would be a remarkable achievement if Nvidia can release GF104, GF106 as well as a dual-GF104, all within the space of about 6 weeks. However, Nvidia needs to get these products out as soon as possible. ATI has been quiet for a long while now - no doubt preparing Southern Islands in anger. Any delay beyond September, and Nvidia could be looking at a very short time span of competitiveness. If the 336 SP spec turns out to be true, Nvidia have also positively surprised us with what was initially believed to be a 256 SP product. It is clear that GF104 will be a competitive chip - balancing power consumption / performance much better than the GF100. It remains to see if it gets close to Cypress in the power/performance metric.

For the consumer, there will finally be much needed competition in the high volume $100-$200 market, something that has been missing for more than half a year.
hmmmmm...
josiahsuarez is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 06-16-10, 06:15 PM   #9
josiahsuarez
Registered User
 
josiahsuarez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 739
Default Re: GTX 460

http://translate.google.com/translat...&sl=auto&tl=en
Quote:
Geforce GTX 455, GTX 460 and GTX 490: Fermi-whispers from insiders at Computex

At Computex, PC Games Hardware spoke with several sources close on upcoming Nvidia GeForce products, more specifically, the GTX 455, the GTX 460 and GTX, the 490th (Marc Sauter, 14/06/2010)

Current state of the Fermi things is this: The GeForce GTX 480 (PCGH Test) is the fastest graphics card SGPU the world, but chip is not a full-GF100 used - this is rumored that only with a version of the Ultra case be, but named no source such a product. Among them is the same time relaunched Geforce GTX position 470, which, depending on the settings and benchmarks on or moved slightly below the level of a Radeon HD 5870

In terms of performance, the smallest ever HD 5830 card, the Fermi cut out clearly in the rule.

In an interview with Nvidia-related sources that do not want to be named, told us details about upcoming products would be: For example, since not the Geforce GTX 455 (GTS!), Which in August for under $200 and based on the GF106, the Radeon to attack HD 5770. The already much-discussed Geforce GTX 460 is supposed to enter the market in July - with 768 MiByte, four GPCs, 336 ALUs, 192 bit and clock rates above a GTX 465: 675/1.350/1.800 MHz instead 608/1.215/1.604 MHz. The GTX 465 is after the launch of the GTX 460 is slowly but surely go end of life (EOL), as the GF104 GTX 460 could be due to more cost-effective (ie cheaper). The performance is likely to be of the same, only the bandwidth could GF104-card draw a line through the bill. Even the GTX 460 will be much more economical (and quieter).

Since AMD, with the Radeon HD 5970 is still the nominal Fps-crown, (this part is unclear) <?> it will be only a matter of time before Nvidia attaches a dual-GPU card as a counterattack. This should take two GF104 and lush 3 GiByte video memory on a single PCB and eligible Geforce GTX 490 to the market. For performance, we could learn anything if one can double the GTX 460 Radeon HD 5970 outperforming is questionable - two GTX 465 in SLI mode the only create in a few games. </?> The card is scheduled for August, 460 So a few weeks after the release of the Geforce GTX. The power consumption is, moreover, be "extremely".
josiahsuarez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-10, 07:50 PM   #10
josiahsuarez
Registered User
 
josiahsuarez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 739
Default Re: GTX 460

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/19206/1/
Quote:
Two Geforce GTX 460 cards to launch on July 12th
Written by Fuad Abazovic
Thursday, 17 June 2010 09:43

768MB and 1024 MB

Nvidia won’t launch just one, it will launch two cards based on the GF104 chip. The fastest one will end up with Geforce GTX 460 name and it comes with 1024MB of memory on a 256 bit bus.

The second card is called Geforce GTX 460 768MB and as you can tell, it has 768MB of 192bit memory. There might be some clock difference between these two but this is something we cannot confirm at press time.

The launch date is July 12th at least according to some people that should know this and the samples should go out to the press very shortly. The chip should be a good overclocker and priced less than GTX 465. The chip is also internally known as the one that might get Nvidia back to the winning ways as it's the best chip they made in years, people who are in the know claim.
well, let's remain skeptical. cautiously optimistic!
josiahsuarez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-10, 09:17 PM   #11
Madpistol
It's a wittle baby!
 
Madpistol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: United States
Posts: 4,554
Send a message via AIM to Madpistol
Default Re: GTX 460

Quote:
Originally Posted by josiahsuarez View Post
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/19206/1/


well, let's remain skeptical. cautiously optimistic!
Yep. I've heard many things called "Nvidia's best chip in years" As far as I'm concerned, the only chip that deserves that title in the last 4 years was the G80 core. That was a truly phenomenal architecture.
__________________
http://bfbc2.statsverse.com/sig/deta...d%20Pistol.png


MadPistol's Rig

AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE (RB-C3) @ 4Ghz, 1.425 Vcore, 1.25V NB VID
Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme (w/ Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm fan)
Gigabyte UD3H AM3 790GX motherboard
XFX Radeon HD 5870
PNY XLR8 2x2GB CL8 DDR3 1600
G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2GB CL8 DDR3 1600
Soundblaster X-Fi Fatality Titanium
OCZ Vertex II 120GB SSD (OS drive)
Western Digital 500GB Caviar (black)
Western Digital 640GB Blue
Samsung DVD burner
Logitech MX performance mouse
Logitech G15 keyboard
Corsair HX 750-watt Modular PSU
Antec Nine Hundred case
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
ASUS MK241 24" LCD
ACER X241W 24" LCD - RIP
Madpistol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-10, 04:13 PM   #12
josiahsuarez
Registered User
 
josiahsuarez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 739
Default Re: GTX 460

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/19230/1/
Quote:
Alleged GF104 GPU pixellized Print E-mail
Written by Slobodan Simic
Friday, 18 June 2010 12:30

Rectangular IHS

There has been a lot of talk recently regarding Nvidia's upcoming GF104 chip and it was just a matter of time before some pictures started to leak. The first one showed up at Zol forum, posted by one of the users and it shows the GF104 IHS in its full glory.

The chip has a GF104-30xxx-A1 model number and a sample tag as well so the actual and final GF104 could end up to be a bit different. It does look somewhat strange as it now uses a rectangular IHS and the brace, previously seen on other NV chips, is gone.

We already wrote about the GF104, and according to the info, the full GF104 will have a total of 384 SPs orginized in 16 clusters of 24 SPs and a 256-bit memory interface. Nvidia will also launch the 336SP GF104 version with a 192-bit memory interface.

Whether the picture is real is yet to be seen, and according to the info, things should be cleareer on July 12th when Nvidia should launch its GF104 based cards.

a dual chip card With one of these would kick BUTT! 384x2=768 SPs!
josiahsuarez is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1998 - 2014, nV News.