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Old 08-03-10, 04:47 PM   #49
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Cause you are rich, and I am gonna keep bugging you bout it

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Old 08-03-10, 07:33 PM   #50
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My little ole' X3 720 BE does quite nicely thank you. Hooked up with a 5870 vid card and I game quite well @ 1920x1200 w/ some good eye candy. It OC's like mad. I liked the article myself and found it to be very imformative, althought I don't like Toms site at all due to it's very biased NVidia ways.

I see no need for me personally to waste my hard earned cash on a cpu upgrade just to have "bragging rights" as to who has the fastest PC.

Way to go AMD for making the best bang for your buck cpu's AND gpu's!!

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Old 08-03-10, 07:44 PM   #51
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In my opinion not even 6 Core is enough.
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Old 08-03-10, 07:45 PM   #52
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Old 08-05-10, 03:38 PM   #53
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The idea that people need to upgrade everything all the time is quite ridiculous. In my current gaming build I am still running a 9600gt, which I bought a week after release. I can still play nearly every game under the sun, while there are a few games I have to turn the graphics down on, most play perfectly. One of the big selling points about pc should be that even with graphics turned down a bit, the game will still look better than console.

Perhaps one day down the line I will purchase a refreshed gtx 460, but until then I will be fine, using my hardware for 3 years between purchases.
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Old 08-05-10, 04:24 PM   #54
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Why do reviewers test games with AF off? Who the hell plays PC games with no AF? It's bad enough these sites test without AA...sheesh.


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There might be the few who will spend $1000+ on two cards just to run a few games better than anyone else.
It has nothing to do with anyone else. It has to do with what you personally are willing to sacrifice in your game experience. If you aren't willing to sacrifice anything, you are going to have to cough up some dough.

So to answer Tom's question...yeah, I need more than an X3 to play PC games the way I want to play them. Hell, I need more than a stock i7!

If I'm going to start lowering settings, turning off AA and AF, I might as well go play on my consoles.
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Why do reviewers test games with AF off? Who the hell plays PC games with no AF? It's bad enough these sites test without AA...sheesh.
Have you ever gamed in a clan? I've been in a couple, and have been indirectly involved in quite a few, and almost all of the members had no idea what AA and AF were. They just plugged their cards in, installed drivers, and played their games.
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Cough... I couldn't tell you what AA or AF is. I'm not a graphics *****, I don't need the OMG BEST GRAPHICS OMG CRYSIS...
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Have you ever gamed in a clan? I've been in a couple, and have been indirectly involved in quite a few, and almost all of the members had no idea what AA and AF were. They just plugged their cards in, installed drivers, and played their games.
I've known plenty of gamers like this, but most of them do this out of ignorance rather than choice. My brother-in-law used to be one of those types, but once he saw the difference between having those settings off and on, he was like, "damn, looks much better" and always uses them now.


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Cough... I couldn't tell you what AA or AF is. I'm not a graphics *****, I don't need the OMG BEST GRAPHICS OMG CRYSIS...
I'll freely admit I'm a graphics *****, but using AF hardly makes you one. Have you ever seen the difference between using it and not? Not to mention the fact that with today's cards the hit is so minimal it's almost a no brainer to turn it on.

And every game doesn't have to look like Crysis, but even World of Warcraft looks about 100x better with AA/AF than without it.

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Gotta agree with that, minimum 8xAF should be a new standard like trilinear filtering. Just because people don't know what it is doesn't mean they wouldn't notice the difference if they tried it. The problem is people that aren't in the know don't play around with the settings in the CP. It doesn't help when they don't always work for certain games or some games require them to be enabled in the game options instead. It's too damn confusing, some sort of standard needs to be set.
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I was moreso joking. I know what they are and I can tell the difference, however, IMO, there is minimal difference at best. I simply don't mind not having it. So, no, I don't need top end hardware.
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Default Re: Tom's asks "Gamers: Do You Need More Than An Athlon II X3?"

Speaking of games making it simpler (at the expense of options, however):

Isn't Metro 2033 locked as far as AA choices, forcing you to use 4x MSAA or Adaptive? There's no way to play it without AA, right (unless you edit a cfg file)? I bet I could play it at very high if I could go down to 0xAA.

It'd be nice to have a live preview windowed in a game's options screen, so you could actually see the differences live.
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