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Old 07-09-10, 12:00 AM   #1
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Default What's most important to you with regards to GTX 460?

Given that the $199 - ~ $240 price point is such an important one to gamers as it is so popular, it seems that the upcoming release of the GTX 460 is going to be fairly important to NVIDIA fans and general hardware enthusiasts alike.

This card could turn out to be a hit, or a miss.

There are several factors to consider if one is interested in this card.
  • Performance vs. other cards near its price point (HD 4890, HD 5830, GTX 260, GTX 275, GTX 465)
  • PhysX performance
  • Folding performance
  • Power consumption
  • Noise
  • Heat
  • SLI scalability
  • 3D Vision/Surround Gaming
  • Antialiasing performance
  • Driver quality
  • Overclockability
  • CPU scaling (or lack of)
  • Build quality

There are bound to be plenty of you in this hardware community who could be interested in the GTX 460. In the event that you are, what's most important to you? What will these cards need to excel at for you to actually push the "Add to my Cart" button?

I'm just interested in seeing what the expectations are of this upcoming release.
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Old 07-09-10, 07:24 AM   #2
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Default Re: What's most important to you with regards to GTX 460?

It's a little sad when I have to bump a thread like this.

I have similar threads posted @ [H], rage3d and techpowerup, and comparatively speaking they're lighting up like pinball machines compared to here.

As the $200-ish price point is so popular, this is a significant product release, and I'd like to hear from more than just the rumor mill inhabitants on this.
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Old 07-09-10, 07:36 AM   #3
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Default Re: What's most important to you with regards to GTX 460?

For me it's definitely performance vs. other cards near its price point, closely followed by overclockability and driver quality.
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Old 07-09-10, 09:03 AM   #4
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Default Re: What's most important to you with regards to GTX 460?

It seems like the GTX 465 will go the same route as the 8800 GTS 320MB version once the 8800 GT came out. I guess they are intentionally cutting the memory down to 768MB on the initial variants of the 460 so they can continue pushing the 465s, but once the full 1GB 460s come out, the 465s will probably be rendered irrelevant. Especially if the rumors are to be believed that the 460 will be a great overclocker as well, with much better thermal profile and power consumption.
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Old 07-09-10, 12:20 PM   #5
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Default Re: What's most important to you with regards to GTX 460?

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It's a littel sad when I have to bump a thread like this.
Honestly I have had zero reason to upgrade yet. I don't have a whole lot of money (Like most people these days) and I definitely can't afford the 3d capable monitors and glasses yet, so really anyone who wants to game, even serious gamers, are probably content with what they have still.

Frankly if I get 300 bucks to burn, it will probably be on a PS3, as I don't own any of the next gen consoles yet.
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Default Re: What's most important to you with regards to GTX 460?

Price/performance
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Default Re: What's most important to you with regards to GTX 460?

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It's a littel sad when I have to bump a thread like this.

I have similar threads posted @ [H], rage3d and techpowerup, and comparatively speaking they're lighting up like pinball machines compared to here.

As the $200-ish price point is so popular, this is a significant product release, and I'd like to hear from more than just the rumor mill inhabitants on this.
I'm assuming that since this is an "enthusiast" forum most here are in the marker for ~$500 cards

I, for one, am very excited about GTX 460! it fits right into the sweet spot for me. critical attributes are (not in any particular order) price, performance, price to performance ratio, heat, and noise. I'm obviously basing this tentative conclusion off of rumors, so we'll see how things actually stand on the 12th...

edit: forgot what is arguably the most important reason, DirectX 11 support!
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Old 07-09-10, 04:22 PM   #8
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It would be performance and overclocking ,since it will more then likely be slower then a GTX 465 and have less memory ,it would not really peak my interest,It would have to be at least on par with the HD5830.But I think I would tell people to save some or wait for a sale until they could get a GTX 470 or a HD5850.I bought my MSI GTX 470 for $279 on sale ,I see now they went up to $349.I have heard rummor that it is only going to have 768mb of memory whiich would be a turn off.
http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/gra...ress-kit-leaks
But I always try to buy the fastest cards ,so it would not even interest me.But if it comes clocked at 675/3600 that will make it more faster then a HD5830,what I don't understand is why the GTX 470 has such low clock on it,when all I have seen will do 700/3600 pretty easy.most will do faster ,I guess it is because it would put it in competion with the GTX 480. http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/32...ent/index.html
even tho both my GTX 470's will do 775/3600 with no voltage ajustments and the fan set at 70%.
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Default Re: What's most important to you with regards to GTX 460?

Thanks for the responses thus far. It seems that the 465 was released to zero fanfare, and if the rumors are true and the price is right, NV might actually have a winner on their hands in the ~ $200 market now with the 460.
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I'm going to be honest.

Nvidia has lost my interest until they release their revised Fermi architecture with better power usage and performance. As much as I want to be excited about the cards they are releasing, I'm just.... not.
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I think this is the wrong board for people to really get alot out of a release like this.... most of us were running older / powerful cards or have recently upgraded to 5870 / 480 / 5850 / 470 cards so between the people with new cards and the people getting older last-gen high end cards there isn't much of a market in the $200 segment with people like us.
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I think this is the wrong board for people to really get alot out of a release like this.... most of us were running older / powerful cards or have recently upgraded to 5870 / 480 / 5850 / 470 cards so between the people with new cards and the people getting older last-gen high end cards there isn't much of a market in the $200 segment with people like us.
You're right but you're wrong.

As this is an NVIDIA fansite, people in all different stages of PC gamer demographics enjoy this place. It's just that anymore, people want to talk about their high-end stuff so much that it pretty much drowns out anyone talking performance segment or mainstream, as if they're irrelevant, when actually that couldn't be farther from the truth, as the enthusiast market is the niche, and the performance segment is much closer to the bread and butter that is the budget segment, and is very likely more lucrative to NV/ATI than the enthusiasts are.

It's been this way for a long time though... and it's unfortunate, because a guy with an HD 5750 should be able to come here or wherever and talk about how he enjoys the experience the card gives him, and he should b able to post some benchmark results etc and actually have people interested in that data, that want to actually discuss it. .... This can't really happen any more, partially because of the pricing disparity that basically makes it look to the unwashed masses like "If teh $600 HD 5970 r0xx0rz, then the $300 GTX 470 must suxx0rz, and any card sellign for $200 must ub3r suxx0rz". ... Too bad that's not the case. Well, those who know have plenty of fun with their bang-for-the-buck hardware. It sure would be nice to have a few of that kind of person around here so I don't feel so damn lonely when I post something about Phenom X4, GTX 465 or HD 5830.
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