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Old 07-28-10, 10:18 PM   #1
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Default SLI GeForce GTX 460 @ 775/1000 versus Radeon HD 5970 @ 800/1150 !!!

My system
CPU Core i7 Extreme 965 @ 3.6GHz
Mainboard ASUS Rampage II Gene
RAM 3x2GB DDR3
ASUS GTX 460 768MB core/shader/memory 675/1350/900
ASUS GTX 460 768MB Direct CU core/shader/memory 700/1400/920
ASUS HD 5970 core/memory 725/1000
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM
Driver NVIDIA 258.96 beta
Driver ATI 10.7 WHQL + 10-7_ATICatalyst_AppProfiles


3DMark Vantage Performance

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150


SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000


Crysis Warhead. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Enthusiast DX10, ambush map

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150


SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000


I played a short and used Fraps to benchmark, map Train. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Enthusiast DX10

I begin to benchmark here


And stop here


ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150
Quote:
2010-07-28 10:45:11 - Crysis
Frames: 14320 - Time: 274358ms - Avg: 52.195 - Min: 20 - Max: 89
SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000
Quote:
2010-07-28 14:03:04 - Crysis
Frames: 11787 - Time: 276624ms - Avg: 42.610 - Min: 14 - Max: 80
Call of Juarez DX10. 1920*1080, AA=4X Super_sampling, Max Settings

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150


SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000


S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat DX11. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Max Settings, Tessellation=ON

Settings in S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat DX11


ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150


SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000


Demo benchmark Dirt 2 DX11. 1920*1080, AA=8x MSAA, Ultra Settings. POST PROCESS=HIGH

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150


SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000


Benchmark Bad Company 2 DX11. I play the first map. Use Fraps. 1920*1080, AA=8X, AF=16X, Max Settings

I begin to benchmark here


And stop here


ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150
Quote:
2010-07-28 12:04:04 - BFBC2Game
Frames: 55874 - Time: 575774ms - Avg: 97.042 - Min: 33 - Max: 147
SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000
Quote:
2010-07-28 15:24:42 - BFBC2Game
Frames: 53637 - Time: 556597ms - Avg: 96.366 - Min: 44 - Max: 160
Benchmark Metro 2033. I play the first scene. Use Fraps. 1920*1080, NoAA, AF=16X, Very High, DX11

I begin to benchmark here


And stop here


ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150
Quote:
2010-07-28 11:51:21 - metro2033
Frames: 8712 - Time: 241089ms - Avg: 36.136 - Min: 15 - Max: 60
SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000
Quote:
2010-07-28 15:14:42 - metro2033
Frames: 8052 - Time: 239472ms - Avg: 33.624 - Min: 18 - Max: 54
Devil May Cry 4 DX10. 1920*1080, AA=8X, Super High

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150


SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000


Resident Evil 5 DX10. 1920*1080, AA=8X, Max Settings

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150


SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000


Heaven Demo benchmark DX11. 1920*1080, AA=4X, AF=16X, Tessellation=Extreme, Max Settings

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150


SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000


Warhaead Crysis gameplay, HD5970 is much smoother than SLI GTX460 768MB. In conclusion, victory belongs HD5970.

Performance of SLI GTX460 768MB @ 775/1000 is more stronger GTX480. You can see the benchmark's result of GTX480 in the same system of SLI GTX460 768MB @ 775/1000 here :
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/overclock...50-1250-a.html

Source : http://forum.amtech.com.vn/overclock...tml#post700994
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Old 07-28-10, 10:23 PM   #2
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Can you make a post without posting a wall of pictures? The numbers you write are enough.
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Old 07-28-10, 11:08 PM   #3
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useful information I suppose.... but really you're basically comparing 2 5870's to a couple of 460's... You're looking at half the cost if you were going to examine them in their single card variants
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why are you two complaining about someone that just took a good part of there afternoon to show us some numbers.

just posting numbers can be faked easy. Thank you for posting pictures.

I was thinking about getting two 460s after reading one sites reviews. this is good information for me because I have a 5970.


The 460s are great value.


Thanks for taking the time to post these benchmarks.
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Old 07-29-10, 03:39 AM   #5
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Yeah, thanks for posting this. Nvidia did a preety good job with these.
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Old 07-29-10, 04:26 AM   #6
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Two of those gTX 460 768mb in SLI does'nt make the $700 HD 5970 look good .I seen some of those GTX 460's clock over 900 and nearly all of them will do 4000mhz on the memory .It supposed to use the same memory speed as the GTX 470 ,but it hard to get them up to 4000mhz ,one of mine will do 3950,I wonder if they have more voltage going to the memory since both use .5ns GDDR5.It a shame you can't TRI SLI them GTX 460 ,then they would have won ever benchmark more then likely.Nvidia put it out against the HD 5830 but it would put up a good fight against the HD 5850.
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Old 07-29-10, 06:53 AM   #7
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Additional results of the benchmark SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000

My system
CPU Core i7 Extreme 965 @ 3.6GHz
Mainboard ASUS Rampage II Gene
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ASUS GTX 460 1GB Direct CU core/shader/memory 775/1550/1000
GIGABYTE GTX 460 1GB OC core/shader/memory 715/1430/900
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM
Driver NVIDIA 258.96 beta


3DMark Vantage Performance

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000


Crysis Warhead. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Enthusiast DX10, ambush map

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000


I played a short and used Fraps to benchmark, map Train. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Enthusiast DX10

I begin to benchmark here


And stop here


SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
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2010-07-29 11:17:59 - Crysis
Frames: 14089 - Time: 273362ms - Avg: 51.540 - Min: 15 - Max: 87
Call of Juarez DX10. 1920*1080, AA=4X Super_sampling, Max Settings

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000


S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat DX11. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Max Settings, Tessellation=ON

Settings in S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat DX11


SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000


Demo benchmark Dirt 2 DX11. 1920*1080, AA=8x MSAA, Ultra Settings. POST PROCESS=HIGH

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000


Benchmark Bad Company 2 DX11. I play the first map. Use Fraps. 1920*1080, AA=8X, AF=16X, Max Settings

I begin to benchmark here


And stop here


SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
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2010-07-29 11:56:18 - BFBC2Game
Frames: 56880 - Time: 555258ms - Avg: 102.439 - Min: 48 - Max: 166
Benchmark Metro 2033. I play the first scene. Use Fraps. 1920*1080, NoAA, AF=16X, Very High, DX11

I begin to benchmark here


And stop here


SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
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2010-07-29 11:24:11 - metro2033
Frames: 8871 - Time: 239294ms - Avg: 37.072 - Min: 20 - Max: 60
Devil May Cry 4 DX10. 1920*1080, AA=8X, Super High

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000


Resident Evil 5 DX10. 1920*1080, AA=8X, Max Settings

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000


Heaven Demo benchmark DX11. 1920*1080, AA=4X, AF=16X, Tessellation=Extreme, Max Settings

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000


Warhaead Crysis gameplay, SLI GTX460 1GB is much smoother than SLI GTX460 768MB. Frame rate of SLI GTX460 768MB will be dropped down a lot when turning or having the explosion since 768MB is not enough to play Crysis Warhead at resolution 1920*1080, Enthusiast DX10, AA = 4X.

The benchmark result of Stalker DX11 Call of Pripyat, the min frame rate of SLI GTX460 1GB is much higher than HD5970.

In terms of performance/price, SLI GTX460 1GB is much better than HD5970.
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why are you two complaining about someone that just took a good part of there afternoon to show us some numbers.

just posting numbers can be faked easy. Thank you for posting pictures.

I was thinking about getting two 460s after reading one sites reviews. this is good information for me because I have a 5970.


The 460s are great value.


Thanks for taking the time to post these benchmarks.
You know, you really misinterpreted my response if you believe that I was complaining.

I really don't think there's any value in comparing 2 sli'd cards when they're target market is tiers below the other card.

For example... you don't see any reviews pitting sli 460's directly against crossfire'd 5870's.... different tiers

UNLESS nvidia decides to build a dual-gpu fermi card out of these 460's.... in which case it's going to be pretty darn underpowered. A dual-gpu card really needs to be built out of 470 GF100 cores.... which probably won't happen since they're extremely ineffecient compared to 460 cores.

They had a hell of a winner with teh 460 but its primary competition is a 5830, a very weak card in comparison to the 5870 cores used in a 5970
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You know, you really misinterpreted my response if you believe that I was complaining.

I really don't think there's any value in comparing 2 sli'd cards when they're target market is tiers below the other card.

For example... you don't see any reviews pitting sli 460's directly against crossfire'd 5870's.... different tiers

UNLESS nvidia decides to build a dual-gpu fermi card out of these 460's.... in which case it's going to be pretty darn underpowered. A dual-gpu card really needs to be built out of 470 GF100 cores.... which probably won't happen since they're extremely ineffecient compared to 460 cores.

They had a hell of a winner with teh 460 but its primary competition is a 5830, a very weak card in comparison to the 5870 cores used in a 5970

Also keeping in mind that ATI's HD6000 series is due in september/october,which will be an entire lineup of cards and faster than the current HD5000 series across the board(remains to be seen how much faster of course),and only now has Nvidia come out with a really good GPU in the form of the GF104,in terms of power consumption and performance and even allow a dual GPU card,to fight cards released 8 to 10 months ago by ATI.


I hope i'm wrong,i really do,but i think Nvidia are going to have a really tough time competing for the next long while,as ATI has the option to make their chips larger and having a bigger transistor budget with this HD6000 series,as the Cypress chip is only 334mm^ in it's current form and they use alot less power than Fermi.


The high end version of fermi is already over 500mm^ at 40nm and is power hungry,so major changes to that can only happen when 28nm is ready from either TSMC or global foundries,and that won't happen till the end of next year,so i don't see a rosy picture at least for another year for Nvidia here.....ATI is giving them hell basically.
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To view the performance of SLI GTX 460 1GB and CrossFireX HD 5850 improve how much to compare with one VGA, I benchmark 5850 and GTX 460 1GB at the same resolution and clock of 5970 and SLI GTX 460 1GB.

My system
CPU Core i7 Extreme 965 @ 3.6GHz
Mainboard ASUS Rampage II Gene
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ASUS GTX 460 1GB Direct CU core/shader/memory 775/1550/1000
ASUS HD 5850 core/memory 725/1000
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM
Driver NVIDIA 258.96 beta
Driver ATI 10.7 WHQL + 10-7_ATICatalyst_AppProfiles


3DMark Vantage Performance

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150


ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000


Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:


Crysis Warhead. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Enthusiast DX10, ambush map

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150


ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000


Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:


I played a short and used Fraps to benchmark, map Train. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Enthusiast DX10

I begin to benchmark here


And stop here


ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
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2010-07-31 08:23:10 - Crysis
Frames: 8767 - Time: 274972ms - Avg: 31.883 - Min: 15 - Max: 53
ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
Quote:
2010-07-30 09:05:29 - Crysis
Frames: 7653 - Time: 275306ms - Avg: 27.798 - Min: 11 - Max: 46
Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:


Call of Juarez DX10. 1920*1080, AA=4X Super_sampling, Max Settings

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150


ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000


Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:


S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat DX11. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Max Settings, Tessellation=ON

Settings in S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat DX11


ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150


ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000


Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:


Demo benchmark Dirt 2 DX11. 1920*1080, AA=8x MSAA, Ultra Settings. POST PROCESS=HIGH

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150


ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000


Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:


Benchmark Bad Company 2 DX11. I play the first map. Use Fraps. 1920*1080, AA=8X, AF=16X, Max Settings

I begin to benchmark here


And stop here


ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
Quote:
2010-07-31 09:49:11 - BFBC2Game
Frames: 32271 - Time: 553377ms - Avg: 58.316 - Min: 13 - Max: 92
ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
Quote:
2010-07-30 09:23:39 - BFBC2Game
Frames: 30677 - Time: 560596ms - Avg: 54.722 - Min: 26 - Max: 91
Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:


Benchmark Metro 2033. I play the first scene. Use Fraps. 1920*1080, NoAA, AF=16X, Very High, DX11

I begin to benchmark here


And stop here


ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
Quote:
2010-07-31 10:00:43 - metro2033
Frames: 5025 - Time: 237458ms - Avg: 21.162 - Min: 11 - Max: 35
ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
Quote:
2010-07-30 10:09:52 - metro2033
Frames: 4631 - Time: 238197ms - Avg: 19.442 - Min: 11 - Max: 34
Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:


Devil May Cry 4 DX10. 1920*1080, AA=8X, Super High

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150


ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000


Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:


Resident Evil 5 DX10. 1920*1080, AA=8X, Max Settings

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150


ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000


Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:


Heaven Demo benchmark DX11. 1920*1080, AA=4X, AF=16X, Tessellation=Extreme, Max Settings

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150


ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000


Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:


Clearly, improved SLI performance is a lot better than CrossFireX, so not surprisingly performance of GTX 460 1GB lost HD 5850 a lot but the performance of SLI GTX 460 1GB is the same as Radeon HD 5970.
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Also keeping in mind that ATI's HD6000 series is due in september/october,which will be an entire lineup of cards and faster than the current HD5000 series across the board(remains to be seen how much faster of course),and only now has Nvidia come out with a really good GPU in the form of the GF104,in terms of power consumption and performance and even allow a dual GPU card,to fight cards released 8 to 10 months ago by ATI.


I hope i'm wrong,i really do,but i think Nvidia are going to have a really tough time competing for the next long while,as ATI has the option to make their chips larger and having a bigger transistor budget with this HD6000 series,as the Cypress chip is only 334mm^ in it's current form and they use alot less power than Fermi.


The high end version of fermi is already over 500mm^ at 40nm and is power hungry,so major changes to that can only happen when 28nm is ready from either TSMC or global foundries,and that won't happen till the end of next year,so i don't see a rosy picture at least for another year for Nvidia here.....ATI is giving them hell basically.
And this has to do with what in accordance to these benchies? Wait until SI releases, then boast.

All I see is a $450.00 vid card setup pretty much equal to a (woops) $700.00 setup. Of course this is if you already own a sli capable board and a beefy enough psu.

P.s. Thought ATI couldn't do SS in dx10, as per The Call of Juarez bench. If so, the numbers would seem out of whack.
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And this has to do with what in accordance to these benchies? Wait until SI releases, then boast.

All I see is a $450.00 vid card setup pretty much equal to a $600.00 setup. Of course this is if you already own a sli capable board and a beefy enough psu.

P.s. Thought ATI couldn't do SS in dx10, as per The Call of Juarez bench. If so, the numbers would seem out of whack.

Still doesn't change the point that the HD5970 was released in november of last year,and here we are about 10 months later,and trying to impress with an SLI setup using recently released cards,against a 10 month old single card,and which is still the fastest single card on the market overall....Wait long enough,and you'll eventually get something faster for less money,even if in this case,it needs to be an SLI setup with 2 cards.


Nvidia used to release dual GPU cards about 5~6 months later after ATI released their dual GPU cards,in order to reclaim the overall peformance crown for a single card,so what happened this time,and why is it taking so damn long to beat that HD5970 card?


And yes,ATI's next series is about 2~3 months away,and Nvidia better pray that those cards don't add another 40~50% more performance over their current HD5000 lineup,otherwise i see Nvidia's pain lasting well into 2011,but that's just my opinion really.
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