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Old 08-13-10, 04:56 AM   #13
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I know this may be shocking to some of you but consoles and most PC games are for children. They are kids toys.
You're playing right in to the stereotype.

Watch this video, it addresses this a bit:

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Old 08-13-10, 05:04 AM   #14
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You're playing right in to the stereotype.

Watch this video, it addresses this a bit:

Thank you. That's my point exactly. Ask a rep who their target demographic is. I don't like the stereotype and that's why I posted. It's not a kids toy but it's become that and that video explains why and how it happened. That's exactly what I said above. That line hasn't helped it's only hindered. Thats why I say maybe if you push them far enough they will break that line and make the next carmageddon but they haven't so far and have only been held back by that line. IMO it should be adult games come first and kids games come second. Ask a kid and he would say the reverse. The market reflects this because they only make kids games. However I can't really see my 60+yo father buying or playing adult games (violent sexy whatever) but I can see myself doing so in 30 years though.
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Old 08-13-10, 08:06 AM   #15
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Arnold Schwarzenegger, '80s action star and governor of California, has passed a law banning the sale of "violent" video games to anyone under the age of 18. This is more than just enforcing the ESRB ratings; this is banning all minors from buying all games that could be considered "violent".
http://blog.youthrights.org/2010/08/...us_fight_back/
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Old 08-13-10, 09:04 AM   #16
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The law doesn't affect me nor do I see anything really wrong with it other than the vagueness of who's definition of "violent" we are to use. Video games rated M aren't suppose to be sold or marketed to minors anyway. So as far as I can see all this does is actually allow penalties most likely in terms of fines on retailers who sell to minors. It does not ban selling the M rated game from a parent or guardian then that parent or guardian giving the game to their child or even preventing a child who got the game from a parent or guardian from owning the M rated game. It is only making it illegal to actually sell the game to a minor. It should in no way affect game development considering any game that would be affected like GTA or the others mentioned earlier still would be made and marketed for the M rated audience.

The only place I can see this being a issue, is with web retailers and digital distributors. They really don't have a way to check what your real age is so this law could be a big hindrance to them.
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Old 08-13-10, 09:54 AM   #17
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If you're under 18, you don't pay taxes and you can't vote, so I don't know why the Supreme Court would listen to you. I have played Modern Warfare 2 and have heard the 1000's of kids (some are extremely young) whose retarded parents bought them the game. Maybe a law like this will make parents pay attention to wtf their kids are doing.

Have fun getting your parents to buy your video games for you.
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Old 08-13-10, 09:56 AM   #18
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I wish that would also mean that there would be less annoying brats online playing games
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Old 08-13-10, 09:57 AM   #19
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The law doesn't affect me nor do I see anything really wrong with it other than the vagueness of who's definition of "violent" we are to use. Video games rated M aren't suppose to be sold or marketed to minors anyway. So as far as I can see all this does is actually allow penalties most likely in terms of fines on retailers who sell to minors. It does not ban selling the M rated game from a parent or guardian then that parent or guardian giving the game to their child or even preventing a child who got the game from a parent or guardian from owning the M rated game. It is only making it illegal to actually sell the game to a minor. It should in no way affect game development considering any game that would be affected like GTA or the others mentioned earlier still would be made and marketed for the M rated audience.

The only place I can see this being a issue, is with web retailers and digital distributors. They really don't have a way to check what your real age is so this law could be a big hindrance to them.
Sure they do. Credit cards are essentially an age check. Practically no kids have credit cards, which means they need to ask their parents.
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Sure they do. Credit cards are essentially an age check. Practically no kids have credit cards, which means they need to ask their parents.
True but some parents do give kids credit cards, and also there are the paypal and google checkout options that need to be taken into consideration.
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Old 08-13-10, 11:31 AM   #21
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Something tells me the OP was expecting a completely different reaction.
I think so

I fully support this.

One of the issues is that some parents are horribly out of touch with what their kids are playing. A good example is one of my nephews, a few years ago. I don't even remember what game he was playing, I think it was a Final Fantasy, not sure though.

He was 11 at the time. I walked in to say hi and he's sitting there with tears in his eyes because he just had to kill his parents to advance in game. This is a smart kid, top student, helps out around the house etc - great kid. No one will ever, ever convince me a video game can't impact a kid in harmful ways.

He was angry at me after that too, I got his mother and showed her what was going on and she flipped, rightfully so. No more video games for little Jim for a while, but he understood why when it was explained to him.
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I think so

I fully support this.

One of the issues is that some parents are horribly out of touch with what their kids are playing. A good example is one of my nephews, a few years ago. I don't even remember what game he was playing, I think it was a Final Fantasy, not sure though.

He was 11 at the time. I walked in to say hi and he's sitting there with tears in his eyes because he just had to kill his parents to advance in game. This is a smart kid, top student, helps out around the house etc - great kid. No one will ever, ever convince me a video game can't impact a kid in harmful ways.

He was angry at me after that too, I got his mother and showed her what was going on and she flipped, rightfully so. No more video games for little Jim for a while, but he understood why when it was explained to him.
Most people that say this are either kids themselves, or don't have them.
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Old 08-13-10, 11:46 AM   #23
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Yeah, I agree with this. Parents need to... *wait for it...*


PARENT!!!

They need to monitor what their kids watch, play, listen to, etc. If they don't want that responsibility they shouldn't have had kids. Since they do, be an adult and accept the responsibility.
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Most people that say this are either kids themselves, or don't have them.
Or just don't care.

Yep, agreed DD.
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