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Old 08-13-10, 05:33 PM   #1
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I'm thinking of building a new pc around 1000 (CAD) without video card (planning to use my current 460), I will be using it for Autocad, photoshop, 3d rendering and lots of gaming. And Im planning on getting every parts from my local store, not online

http://www.memoryexpress.com/

I probably won't be doing any overclocking nor SLi, so I am kind of stuck between the

Intel Core™ i7 Processor 930 2.80GHz w/ 8MB Cache

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Intel Core™ i7 Processor 870 2.93GHz w/ 8MB Cache

the 930 actually cost less, but they dont have cheap motherboard (with USB 3 and Sata 3) to combo with it, but I heard the i9 use the same socket as the 930, which make it more future proof for i9 upgrade when its cheaper and a lot of apps start using the 6 cores......Any suggestion?
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Old 08-13-10, 05:55 PM   #2
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If you are not going to be doing any overclocking or using SLi, why not get a 6 core AMD processor or a quad core one. It will be cheaper I believe.
As for the 930, it is a great CPU, but it really shines once overclocked, and it is VERY easy to overclock it. Most x58 motherboards are very forgiving.
Also, check out NCIX Canada. It's a good Canadian based company.
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Old 08-13-10, 06:12 PM   #3
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Go for the 930.

1) 930 is socket 1336 and future proof. i7 870 is socket 1156 and already dead - No upgrade path.

2) Don't even worry about USB 3 or SATA 3 right now. They're not fully utilized yet. Waste of money, IMO.
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I'm with bob saget on the AMD 6-core processors. They are most excellent for AutoCAD and other multi-threaded applications, and they are relatively cheap compared to their intel counterparts, especially when you factor in the cost of the platform.
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Old 08-14-10, 12:06 PM   #5
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how does a AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 6 Core Processor 3.2GHZ Socket AM3 compare to 930? I saw a review on bit tech, it barely even come close to the 930 overclocked or not, and it cost more at NCIX. I prefer buying parts from a local store, so if anything happen (defected parts etc), I can return easier.
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Old 08-14-10, 01:13 PM   #6
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right now I'm looking at this

-Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R
-Intel Core™ i7 Processor 930 2.80GHz w/ 8MB Cache
-Corsair 6GB XMS3-1600 PC3-12800 Core™ i7 Triple Channel DDR3 Kit (3 x 2GB) w/ Intel XMP

the mobo is expensive, but the cheapest 1336 mobo at the store only cost 20 less and no USB 3, so I might as well get the one with USB 3. I should specify, I use it for 50% gaming, 50% CAD, photoshop, rendering etc.
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very popular motherboard, that is.
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Old 08-16-10, 10:13 AM   #10
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I'm thinking of building a new pc around 1000 (CAD) without video card (planning to use my current 460), I will be using it for Autocad, photoshop, 3d rendering and lots of gaming. And Im planning on getting every parts from my local store, not online

http://www.memoryexpress.com/

I probably won't be doing any overclocking nor SLi, so I am kind of stuck between the

Intel Core™ i7 Processor 930 2.80GHz w/ 8MB Cache

and

Intel Core™ i7 Processor 870 2.93GHz w/ 8MB Cache

the 930 actually cost less, but they dont have cheap motherboard (with USB 3 and Sata 3) to combo with it, but I heard the i9 use the same socket as the 930, which make it more future proof for i9 upgrade when its cheaper and a lot of apps start using the 6 cores......Any suggestion?
your close to a memory express, what is the store like? I bought my 1st two gtx 480's from them. Best price in Canada at the time.
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Old 08-16-10, 12:52 PM   #11
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right now I'm looking at this

-Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R
-Intel Core™ i7 Processor 930 2.80GHz w/ 8MB Cache
-Corsair 6GB XMS3-1600 PC3-12800 Core™ i7 Triple Channel DDR3 Kit (3 x 2GB) w/ Intel XMP

the mobo is expensive, but the cheapest 1336 mobo at the store only cost 20 less and no USB 3, so I might as well get the one with USB 3. I should specify, I use it for 50% gaming, 50% CAD, photoshop, rendering etc.
That setup is working like a champ for me. I personally would stay away from Corsair RAM (I went through 3 sets of Corsair PC3-12800 CL7 RAM when I first built mine), but YMMV. Since I switched over to the G.Skill RAM, I am in heaven.

I use mine for gaming and photoshop, so you will probably be fine there. I use AutoCAD on my laptop, but I'm sure that the 930 would be awesome there as well.

If I had waited a couple of weeks though, I probably would have opted for a 6 core AMD processor myself. I can't speak for the 6 core AMD's, but my experience with the i7 930 has been excellent.
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Old 08-16-10, 04:08 PM   #12
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Go for the 930.

1) 930 is socket 1336 and future proof. i7 870 is socket 1156 and already dead - No upgrade path.

2) Don't even worry about USB 3 or SATA 3 right now. They're not fully utilized yet. Waste of money, IMO.
Socket 1156 is dead? Are you saying the new processors that Intel is going to release soon won't support this socket? I know that the top-end Core i7 processors are socket 1336 and the "lower-end" are 1156. Also, the current Core i5 processors are 1156 but even the upcoming Core i5 processors won't support 1156?
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