Question regarding 9800 Pro - FX5900 characteristic

NAZCA M12 · 07-29-03, 08:42 PM

Hey there, i've got a question concerning my future video card. I've been thinking of buying either an ATI9800 Pro or an FX5900 card, i really like both of them. However, on my GF 3 Ti500 i've seen that the detonator drivers give the user the option of a "digital vibrance" slider which makes the colours on the screen more vibrant on the fly, without having to adjust the monitor to have the same result. Now i know that the GF 2 for example didn't have that characteristic. Recently i played SC and it would get stuck on the Ti500 so i had to play it on the old GF 2 instead. It looked pretty ****ty without the vibrant colours. I'd like to ask if the ATI cards have a similar option in their drivers, i know it sounds a minute detail to some but i would appreciate some feedback.

**saturnotaku** · 07-29-03, 09:16 PM

This was a feature ATI was supposed to have implemented in their drivers a few sets back, but from what I've heard this is not going to happen. A lot of folks who have had NVIDIA cards then switched to ATI have wanted this feature (which was supported on the GeForce2 MX by the way). I don't think it will ever get put in, however my former 9800 Pro had perfect color saturation and I didn't miss DV at all.

XForce · 07-30-03, 06:28 AM

I consider DV something like "loudness" on hifi systems:
it may sound better on bad/small speakers, but it's futile if the speakers (= signal stage of the card & monitor) are good in the first place.

Good analogy?

Also, I can imagine that DV was originally introduced to counter the imense output IQ problems due to OEMs using inferior components in the output/filter section of their cards during the GF3 days.

Is that correct?

Thanks & cheers,
Mac

**saturnotaku** · 07-30-03, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by XForce
Also, I can imagine that DV was originally introduced to counter the imense output IQ problems due to OEMs using inferior components in the output/filter section of their cards during the GF3 days.

Is that correct?

Thanks & cheers,
Mac

Not really. All DV does is change color saturation. If you have problems with blurry text in 2D/textures in 3D/wavy lines/etc (which would be caused by poor filters), all the DV in the world ain't gonna help that.

Ruined · 07-30-03, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by XForce
Good analogy?

It's really just a way to get better looking video out of your current monitor. You are right, stating that getting a better monitor might solve the problem, but not everyone has the cash for a new monitor, especially when they want to upgrade to the latest and fastest videocard.

Anyway, if you want those controls go with the FX5900.

NAZCA M12 · 07-30-03, 09:09 PM

Thanks everyone for your feedback. My monitor is a Viewsonic VE170mb (black). I think it's still a pretty good one. Of course i could just make the colours more vibrant from the monitor's OSD but it's not enough, through the card they're more vibrant (i'm running the slider on full). I guess i'll buy a 5900 Ultra now, and sth like a 9800 AIW for the second PC, which then won't be "second" anymore, right guys?

5150 Joker · 07-30-03, 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by NAZCA M12
Thanks everyone for your feedback. My monitor is a Viewsonic VE170mb (black). I think it's still a pretty good one. Of course i could just make the colours more vibrant from the monitor's OSD but it's not enough, through the card they're more vibrant (i'm running the slider on full). I guess i'll buy a 5900 Ultra now, and sth like a 9800 AIW for the second PC, which then won't be "second" anymore, right guys?

Hey while you're at it how about buying me a card too?

07-29-03, 08:42 PM	#1
NAZCA M12 Master Thief Join Date: May 2003 Location: The City Posts: 448	Question regarding 9800 Pro - FX5900 characteristic Hey there, i've got a question concerning my future video card. I've been thinking of buying either an ATI9800 Pro or an FX5900 card, i really like both of them. However, on my GF 3 Ti500 i've seen that the detonator drivers give the user the option of a "digital vibrance" slider which makes the colours on the screen more vibrant on the fly, without having to adjust the monitor to have the same result. Now i know that the GF 2 for example didn't have that characteristic. Recently i played SC and it would get stuck on the Ti500 so i had to play it on the old GF 2 instead. It looked pretty ****ty without the vibrant colours. I'd like to ask if the ATI cards have a similar option in their drivers, i know it sounds a minute detail to some but i would appreciate some feedback.

07-30-03, 06:28 AM	#3
XForce Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 40	I consider DV something like "loudness" on hifi systems: it may sound better on bad/small speakers, but it's futile if the speakers (= signal stage of the card & monitor) are good in the first place. Good analogy? Also, I can imagine that DV was originally introduced to counter the imense output IQ problems due to OEMs using inferior components in the output/filter section of their cards during the GF3 days. Is that correct? Thanks & cheers, Mac __________________ www.hardware-mods.de

07-29-03, 09:16 PM	#2
saturnotaku Apple user. Deal with it. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The 'burbs, IL USA Posts: 12,502	This was a feature ATI was supposed to have implemented in their drivers a few sets back, but from what I've heard this is not going to happen. A lot of folks who have had NVIDIA cards then switched to ATI have wanted this feature (which was supported on the GeForce2 MX by the way). I don't think it will ever get put in, however my former 9800 Pro had perfect color saturation and I didn't miss DV at all.

07-30-03, 09:09 PM	#6
NAZCA M12 Master Thief Join Date: May 2003 Location: The City Posts: 448	Thanks everyone for your feedback. My monitor is a Viewsonic VE170mb (black). I think it's still a pretty good one. Of course i could just make the colours more vibrant from the monitor's OSD but it's not enough, through the card they're more vibrant (i'm running the slider on full). I guess i'll buy a 5900 Ultra now, and sth like a 9800 AIW for the second PC, which then won't be "second" anymore, right guys?