UK retailers want to ban Steam games??

11-14-10, 11:59 AM

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=157084

From the news thread.

While I do think games should not be 100% tied to a specific digital download platform, this may be a bit drastic as more and more games seem to be tying themselves to the service.

What have you members from the UK heard about this?

JasonPC · 11-14-10, 12:19 PM

Hey if you can't beat 'em, bring out the lawyers.

Sean_W · 11-14-10, 12:31 PM

It's a bit annoying really, since Steam is the middle man that doesn't need to be in the middle. It's got good and bad points to it.

Good:

You can download your game from Steam if you lose your retail copy.

You don't need the CD/DVD in the drive to play.

Bad:

It's a middle man service like GFWL, where you need an account to get the best out of the game.

It can indeed monopolise how people buy PC games.

In the end, retailers don't stock much in the line of PC games anyway, since they blamed piracy and console games are the main sellers in their stores, not PC.

Peoples-Agent · 11-14-10, 01:57 PM

They want the box product in the stores again, but aren't willing to commit shelf space without a head start.

I guess they also get sick of people coming into the shop with Steam related issues that are totally out of their control.

Personally, i'd sooner walk into a store and see shelves upon shelves of stacked PC games... new and old, just how it use to be. We got a one small lousy PC section in just about every store nowadays.

This is why retailers have issues with it, I guess.

**K007** · 11-14-10, 02:25 PM

http://games.on.net/article/10744/St...tegrated_Games

Quote:

Yes you read that headline correct. Major retailers, both physical and also online, have come on record and voiced concern that Valve's digital download service Steam is killing the PC market and they won't stand for it, threatening not to sell titles if publishers do not remove Steam integration from their games.

AthlonXP1800 · 11-14-10, 02:42 PM

No it is not all about high street retailers so it all about digital retailers. GAME also sell download games but people prefer buy it on steam because it has huge library of games available to buy and download which GAME cant compete.

Take Call of Duty: Black Ops PC for example, GAME sell both retail and digital download for £34.99 but struggle to compete £5 cheaper than Steam overpriced £39.99. I can find cheapest Call of Duty: Black Ops PC DVD retail for £29.99 with free delivery.

What I dont understand why is Steam charge more on PC games than high street retailers and digital retailers?

Redeemed · 11-14-10, 02:44 PM

Before steam retailers didn't a lot much space to PC Gaming, there was a small section dominated by several large console sections. And then they complain when they see Steam doing so well?

I think they're only griping cause they figured PC gaming was either dying or becoming a niche market. After seeing the sucess steam is having they're probably a bit jealous. Should have thought of that before you catered primarily to consoles, idiots.

Go steam. I'd like them to have some competition just to keep them on their toes, but I have no sympathy for the retailers. Hind-sight is 20/20 and they can now see what dumb asses they were. Their loss, Valve's gain.

JohnDio · 11-14-10, 03:36 PM

Let's ban all PC games instead. Then every retailer will be happy

Mr. Hunt · 11-14-10, 04:28 PM

Would be dumb. I ONLY buy my PC games through Steam, so **** those guys.

Viral · 11-14-10, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemed

Before steam retailers didn't a lot much space to PC Gaming, there was a small section dominated by several large console sections. And then they complain when they see Steam doing so well?

I think they're only griping cause they figured PC gaming was either dying or becoming a niche market. After seeing the sucess steam is having they're probably a bit jealous. Should have thought of that before you catered primarily to consoles, idiots.

Go steam. I'd like them to have some competition just to keep them on their toes, but I have no sympathy for the retailers. Hind-sight is 20/20 and they can now see what dumb asses they were. Their loss, Valve's gain.

+1

Game retailers are going down the road of Blockbuster. Digital distribution will take over, deal with it.

11-15-10, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Viral

+1

Game retailers are going down the road of Blockbuster. Digital distribution will take over, deal with it.

Most everything I play is through Steam anyway. Like I said earlier, I'm not crazy about being forced to use it, but if it has to be tied to a digital platform, then Steam is what I'll choose every time.

11-15-10, 10:02 AM

I haven't bought a physical copy of a game in at least 4 years, and I never will. They don't distribute them online, I won't buy it.

11-14-10, 11:59 AM	#1
grey_1 Guest Posts: n/a	UK retailers want to ban Steam games?? http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=157084 From the news thread. While I do think games should not be 100% tied to a specific digital download platform, this may be a bit drastic as more and more games seem to be tying themselves to the service. What have you members from the UK heard about this?

11-14-10, 12:19 PM	#2
JasonPC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,103	Re: UK retailers want to ban Steam games?? Hey if you can't beat 'em, bring out the lawyers.

11-14-10, 12:31 PM	#3
Sean_W Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,438	Re: UK retailers want to ban Steam games?? It's a bit annoying really, since Steam is the middle man that doesn't need to be in the middle. It's got good and bad points to it. Good: You can download your game from Steam if you lose your retail copy. You don't need the CD/DVD in the drive to play. Bad: It's a middle man service like GFWL, where you need an account to get the best out of the game. It can indeed monopolise how people buy PC games. In the end, retailers don't stock much in the line of PC games anyway, since they blamed piracy and console games are the main sellers in their stores, not PC.

11-14-10, 01:57 PM	#4
Peoples-Agent Vape Therapist Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,308	Re: UK retailers want to ban Steam games?? They want the box product in the stores again, but aren't willing to commit shelf space without a head start. I guess they also get sick of people coming into the shop with Steam related issues that are totally out of their control. Personally, i'd sooner walk into a store and see shelves upon shelves of stacked PC games... new and old, just how it use to be. We got a one small lousy PC section in just about every store nowadays. This is why retailers have issues with it, I guess. __________________ For The Fallen With proud thanksgiving, a mother for her children, England mourns for her dead across the sea. Flesh of her flesh they were, spirit of her spirit, Fallen in the cause of the free.

11-14-10, 02:42 PM	#6
AthlonXP1800 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 4,352	Re: UK retailers want to ban Steam games?? No it is not all about high street retailers so it all about digital retailers. GAME also sell download games but people prefer buy it on steam because it has huge library of games available to buy and download which GAME cant compete. Take Call of Duty: Black Ops PC for example, GAME sell both retail and digital download for £34.99 but struggle to compete £5 cheaper than Steam overpriced £39.99. I can find cheapest Call of Duty: Black Ops PC DVD retail for £29.99 with free delivery. What I dont understand why is Steam charge more on PC games than high street retailers and digital retailers? __________________ Intel Core i7 3770K, Corsair H80 liquid cooler with Noctua S12-1200 fan, ASUS P8Z77V with UEFI 1606, 16GB Samsung Green 30nm DDR3-RAM, Pioneer DVR-217DBK 22x DVD-RW, Corsair AX850 PSU, Western Digital 2TB SATA3 hard drive, Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic, CanonScan N650U scanner, Microsoft Internet Keyboard, ASDA Wheel Mouse Optical, Sirus's 2 3D speakers, 32inch Sharp LC32LE600 LED TV, EVGA Geforce GTX 670 SC 4GB with Geforce 306.23 driver, 30Mb broadband Virgin Media VMDG480 Super Hub, Aspire Xplorer Midi Tower, Windows 8 Pro 64bit.

11-14-10, 02:44 PM	#7
Redeemed Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 17,986	Re: UK retailers want to ban Steam games?? Before steam retailers didn't a lot much space to PC Gaming, there was a small section dominated by several large console sections. And then they complain when they see Steam doing so well? I think they're only griping cause they figured PC gaming was either dying or becoming a niche market. After seeing the sucess steam is having they're probably a bit jealous. Should have thought of that before you catered primarily to consoles, idiots. Go steam. I'd like them to have some competition just to keep them on their toes, but I have no sympathy for the retailers. Hind-sight is 20/20 and they can now see what dumb asses they were. Their loss, Valve's gain.

11-14-10, 03:36 PM	#8
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11-14-10, 04:28 PM	#9
Mr. Hunt Rectal Gravy Connoisseur Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 8,294	Re: Steam Killing PC Market - Retailers to Ban Steam Integrated Games Would be dumb. I ONLY buy my PC games through Steam, so **** those guys.

11-15-10, 10:02 AM	#12
Bearclaw Guest Posts: n/a	Re: UK retailers want to ban Steam games?? I haven't bought a physical copy of a game in at least 4 years, and I never will. They don't distribute them online, I won't buy it.