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Old 11-26-10, 08:06 PM   #1
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Question ~$1000 machine...what do you guys think?

After being out of the PC Gaming scene for a few years (currently, rocking an AMD3500 in the desktop). I've decided that Starcraft 2 dictates that I need to get my feet wet again.

I'd like to spend around $1000 (this is just a number), and not have to worry about upgrading again for quite some time. My main monitor has a default resolution of 1920x1200; but have dual monitors going during non gaming times. Also, I'm just not passionate about overclocking, so I'm looking for the best stock performance for my dollar:

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $59.95

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042

Its not a new computer, unless you have a new case to toss it into. I don't really care about flashing lights / windows. I'm more about being able to get at my components easily. This seems like it will meet my needs, and not cost too much.

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W - $94.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006

I don't want to ever worry about power supply issues, so this seems like a good fit for me. Thought about going with the 650W model...and still might if people seem to think that its enough. Ideally it would be modular, but I'm willing to deal with extra wires for ~$50 savings. 80% efficiency....highly rated, this seems like a good fit for me.

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz - $279.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115211

Since I'm not a fan of overclocking, I'm willing to spend a bit more for more CPU performance. Given the recent price cuts around the I7-950, I feel that its right in the sweet spot for me, in terms of getting a high powered CPU that will last for a while.

ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA - $179.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131665

I haven't had the best experience with ASUS in the past, but they aren't terrible. This seems to be a popular mobo choice amongst the masses on this board. I think ideally, I'd getting the Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R, but just can't justify spending extra dollars. All I really need is integrated sound, and some PCI-E magic. All the rest of the bells / whistles, don't really appeal to me.

12GB G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) - $49.99 x 3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231277

Thought about going more expensive + faster, but 12 GBs for ~ $150 is too good to pass up. Highly rated, feel good about this choice.

SAPPHIRE 100314SR Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP - $254.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102909

This was another big decisions...I tend to be an Nvidia fan (although not a blind fan)...everything I've read about this card tells me that its well designed, and should let me get close to max settings; for a while. (after which in the worst case, I can pick up another one).

So there we are...grand total: $1019.88. I'm feeling pretty good about all of the components, and would like to pull the trigger this weekend. If I seem to have missed anything glaring, please let me know...as I'd really like to this to go smoothly.

Thanks!

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Old 11-26-10, 08:32 PM   #2
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Do you definitely need 12gigs? I don't know how much of a performance jump you would see over 6gigs, and you can't overclock as well with more memory. I think 6 gigs is perfect match, unless you are certain you need more.
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Old 11-26-10, 08:37 PM   #3
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Do you definitely need 12gigs? I don't know how much of a performance jump you would see over 6gigs, and you can't overclock as well with more memory. I think 6 gigs is perfect match, unless you are certain you need more.
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Old 11-26-10, 08:38 PM   #4
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I'd downgrade the 12gb to 6gb and get a beefier PSU instead.

It looks like it'll be a fun gaming rig though.
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Old 11-26-10, 08:45 PM   #5
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I'd downgrade the 12gb to 6gb and get a beefier PSU instead.

It looks like it'll be a fun gaming rig though.
You think he needs a beefier PSU for multiple graphics? 750w is not enough for 2 6870s?
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You think he needs a beefier PSU for multiple graphics? 750w is not enough for 2 6870s?
Aside from the 6870s, that rig looks like it wants a couple of the higher-end GPUs. I thought a beefier PSU would just be a good insurance policy in case he decided to go something like dual 6950/6970 a year from now.
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gotcha boss. i have been thinking about getting a second 5870 because they are becoming dirt cheap....
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gotcha boss. i have been thinking about getting a second 5870 because they are becoming dirt cheap....
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Good grief, Charlie Brown.

What's the TDP of 6870 anyway? And 6970?
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Old 11-26-10, 09:23 PM   #9
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6870 is 151W and 6970 is 300W from a quick google search
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Wow...thanks for all the replies!

A couple of things: On 12 GBs of RAM. Unfortunately for me, I tend to be upgrading every 6 years or so. While I don't think I really need 12 GBs of RAM...they are pretty cheap, and it was more...me just kinda thinking that there wasn't a lot of reason not to.

Would there be perceivable benefits for beefier GPUs at 1920x1200?

I could drop down to 8 GBs of RAM, and invest in a modular power supply.

Just musing outloud...
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At that resolution I think the 6870 will prove to be perfect for you - for now. But it's likely that 6-9 months from now there will be a few of the most popular games coming out that will require way more tessellation and geometry than that one 6870 can handle at 1920x1200. Another one will help for games that use very light amounts of tessellation, but heavy amounts will punish even a CF 6870 setup, since it's really no better at this important DX11 feature than an HD 5870.

It remains to be seen whether future games are just going to pour on buckets of tessellation, or apply it in a more efficient and optimized fashion. Depending on what happens, NVIDIA's brute force or AMD's balanced approach will make the most sense... time will tell.
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if you are planning on overclocking the cpu, which you should because many games benefit from it, it is easier to do so with 6gigs of RAM, though it is generally VERY easy to overclock the i7s.
The Jump from 2 gigs to 4 is HUGE. And the jump from 4gigs to triple channel 6gigs IS noticeable, but i really doubt you will see a difference going higher than that.
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