my gripe with windows 7

[ViN86]

Originally Posted by nekrosoft13

and have access to 1,000s of good apps, wine can't cut it, and be user friendly haha

Ubuntu is just as easy to use as Windows.

[john19055]

I have windows7 oem and norton 360 and have done a bunch of reinstalls and never had any problems ,I am always changeing out parts and it never ask me to reactivate,mybe just lucky.

[wheeljack12]

Originally Posted by Sean_W

haha, well not really. Microsoft are just another greedy company I don't give money to by buying their products. Lucky for me, I have friends who work in IT, so I get OEM Windows to use for gaming and give no money to Microsoft. Win, win for me.

when win xp 64 bit oem hit the market, I was one of the 1st to buy. all I needed was a peripheral back then to make ms happy for the online retailer to sell it to me. I liked the idea of lower cost at 1st, but when I upgraded the video, I had to reactivate by phone. I ended up having to bs a ms guy telling him that my system integrator did it and I wasn't aware that oem copies are limited to the hardware installed with them. It worked and I win xp reactivated. But after that, I made sure my copies of windows were retail so I wouldn't end without a windows license. Pretty much scared me off of oem because of that.

[wheeljack12]

Originally Posted by TheOneAndOnly

Pfft. I've had to reactivate my Win 7 box probably 8-9 times, due to my constantly changing parts. All it takes is a five minute free phone call to resolve. And I have never gotten a hassle from MS for doing this. Completely 100% hassle free.
If this wasn't your experience, then you should have asked for a supervisor. Either you got an extremely rare case of a rude service person, or your story is BS. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that it is the former. A supervisor would have easily taken care of it for you.
AFAIK, MS does not blacklist a key unless it has requested activation numerous times over a short period of times (leading to an obvious case of widespread piracy). If I haven't been banned, there is no reason you should have been. Again, a manager could have taken care of this easily. MS's policy has always been to assume your are innocent in every case and activate manually, unless it is provable that a particular key has been pirated.
If Norton 360 is causing you hassles, blame Norton, not MS. I would think that would be blatantly obvious.

As far as the OPs rant on "greed", blah blah blah, a company is there to provide a product or service in exchange for money. Since there are literally millions out there who find theft to be appropriate, do you think it is not in any companies best interests to protect that investment and prevent the piracy of their product? Do you not think that it is more appropriate to rant and rave at the pirates themselves?

But more importantly, if you do not agree with a product or service, go elsewhere. I'm certain Linux would love another user...

I have reactivated more than 9 times for one. and two, the phone service, person service and the windows activation said I was out of activations. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that. That is how many times I have activated windows, to the point ms wouldn't allow me to activate anymore. What I am getting at is that MS shouldn't be using a max no. of activations to protect themselves. I personally think the no. of activations should be based on how many time you reinstall windows over hardware upgrading. It would last longer and pc builders wouldn't run into this headache of paying for another license/copy just because they get the upgrade bug.

[nekrosoft13]

Originally Posted by ViN86

Ubuntu is just as easy to use as Windows.

maybe, but to the average user it never will be.

average user shops at stores, and linux will never be supported in stores. average user will go to best buy or other store and buy some random hardware or software. go home and it will not work.

[ryoohki]

I've personally stayed away from Norton since what 2004. I was using NOD prior to the release of MSE, witch does a very good job for a free software..

[ATOJAR]

Originally Posted by FlakMagnet

So is an STD.

Not if you got if from a hooker!

[Lyme]

Don't use Norton, it's ****e.

[six_storm]

People still pay for AV? Wow . . .

[ViN86]

Originally Posted by six_storm

People still pay for AV? Wow . . .

Norton has a lot of integration and automation features that are great for users who don't know a lot about computers. So I can understand why some people still pay for it.

[six_storm]

Originally Posted by ViN86

Norton has a lot of integration and automation features that are great for users who don't know a lot about computers. So I can understand why some people still pay for it.

MSE is great for people who don't know anything about computers. If there is a problem, it will alert you and it's easy to choose what button you need to hit: Clean Computer. Easy and free.

[wheeljack12]

well, I am now using webroot internet security complete and haven't had a problem since. It seems that norton 360 was screwing up and making my pc deactivated although during the time I had norton I did little upgrading. Crysis 2 was doing the same thing for the game, not my os. It kept asking me to activate crysis 2 although I already had. Got around it by closing the crysis 2 activation window and restarting the game.