Go Back   nV News Forums > Graphics Card Forums > NVIDIA GeForce 7, 8, And 9 Series

Newegg Daily Deals

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-04-03, 11:54 AM   #49
AnteP
Nordic Nerd
 
AnteP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Sweden, Lund
Posts: 552
Send a message via ICQ to AnteP
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by maxpower
That'd be pretty easy if we all lived on the same block, which we don't. jk Seriously, I agree. Roundups are awesome but logistics to allow for that aren't so easy.
Why not have one person doing the review of all boards?
Or are some of these boards purchased by nVnews crew or something?

In any case it's nice to see people trying new things. One shouldn't get too hung up on "this is how it's supposed to look" IMHO.
AnteP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-03, 12:16 PM   #50
The Baron
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Why not have one person doing the review of all boards?
Time. Some of us have, you know, jobs and school and stuff
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-03, 12:20 PM   #51
Clay
Registered User
 
Clay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,992
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by The Baron
Time. Some of us have, you know, jobs and school and stuff
Yeah, I have a job, two boys under the age of two, etc, etc... I agree thought that roundups are also probably the most useful form of review....they're also the most time consuming and expensive kind of review to do though.
Clay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-03, 12:59 PM   #52
AnteP
Nordic Nerd
 
AnteP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Sweden, Lund
Posts: 552
Send a message via ICQ to AnteP
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by The Baron
Time. Some of us have, you know, jobs and school and stuff
You mean... now I have to make sure I get this straight, you have a life?
Have you talked to one of those "gurlz" i keep hearing about on the IRC?

j/k

Point taken.
AnteP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-03, 01:34 PM   #53
Clay
Registered User
 
Clay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,992
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by AnteP
You mean... now I have to make sure I get this straight, you have a life?
Have you talked to one of those "gurlz" i keep hearing about on the IRC?

j/k

Point taken.
LOL! Good one. Yeah, I'm sure we all agree with your point too. My next review will be a comparsion review for sure. Thanks.
Clay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-03, 08:33 PM   #54
quik_2_win
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 205
Default

It was a good review- certainly casts the card in a positive light. Sometimes the objective view is easier to digest than a bunch of numbers for us to compare, however, those numbers are very critical for someone spending big money for a top-of-the-line graphics board. Certainly nothing wrong with being 'personable', and being realistic in your judgements about image quality- I agree in most cases with the points that you made. Keep in mind this product costs $500 USD. It deserves (begs) to be scrutinized...
quik_2_win is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-03, 09:20 PM   #55
Clay
Registered User
 
Clay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,992
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by quik_2_win
It was a good review- certainly casts the card in a positive light. Sometimes the objective view is easier to digest than a bunch of numbers for us to compare, however, those numbers are very critical for someone spending big money for a top-of-the-line graphics board. Certainly nothing wrong with being 'personable', and being realistic in your judgements about image quality- I agree in most cases with the points that you made. Keep in mind this product costs $500 USD. It deserves (begs) to be scrutinized...
Thanks for the feedback. Agreed, continued/more scutiny is in order. I tried to find faults with it from an overall perspective and really couldn't. There are obviously some issues with the NV35 (and not BFG Tech specifically) that require more attention but it just wasn't in the scope of this review. All things considered the card is a very high quality/high performing card. Cards based on reference designs are kind of tricky because you're basically reviewing NVIDIA (in this case) and not the partner company. I would take a more aggressive approach now, in hindsight, with a card that actually was modified in some way by the partner company.
Clay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-03, 02:32 AM   #56
Cotita
Nvidia God
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 341
Default

I liked the review, playing real games (or demos for that matter) is better than synthetic benchmarks IMO. And I agree in the Still vs in game IQ. I've always said that I play games not benchmarks, nor still frames. 3rd person shooters won't give you time to "smell the flowers" so you won't notice IQ issues if any.

One thing is missing tough

Stock speed benchmarks, not all BFG cards (or any 5900 ultra for that matter) OC to 500/900+ mhz, most 5900 ultra cards I've seen (in reviews and reported by users) won't reach 500mhz on the core, more like 480~490 so a BFG retail card may not reach your OC speeds.

Not that it makes a a big difference, since its only like 10% OC and it doesn't translate in 10% higher performance. Maybe I 'm just picky.
__________________
Sometimes I hate being right everytime.
Cotita is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 08-05-03, 08:27 AM   #57
Clay
Registered User
 
Clay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,992
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Cotita
One thing is missing tough

Stock speed benchmarks, not all BFG cards (or any 5900 ultra for that matter) OC to 500/900+ mhz, most 5900 ultra cards I've seen (in reviews and reported by users) won't reach 500mhz on the core, more like 480~490 so a BFG retail card may not reach your OC speeds.
Thanks for the feedback Cotita. This was a BFG retail card though. Also, [H]ardOCP's review of this same card yielded similar OC results/stability.

My reasoning behind running all tests at OC settings is that cards of this caliber will most likely be pushed to these limits by those that buy them anyway. I agree that having stock speeds as a comparison is important to a degree but my timeframe just didn't allow for it with this review. I will be including stock speeds in future reviews. Thanks again!
Clay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-03, 10:54 AM   #58
Cotita
Nvidia God
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 341
Default

I see your point, but I really don't agree with it completely.

5900 ultras are already pretty much pushed to their limits with their stock speeds. And as I said most of them are not very overclockable, although that will change in time as manufacturing process matures. My point is that 5900 ultra users most likely won't risk their card for only mild overclocking and not a significant performance increase. The geforceFX 5900 already is hot enough to stress the card even more.

In comparison a 5600 ultra (flip chip) is a great overclocker (getting close to 500/900 o even higher) and most likely will be pushed to its limits by their users.

But then again maybe I'm just picky
__________________
Sometimes I hate being right everytime.
Cotita is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-03, 11:00 AM   #59
Badash
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Bellevue,WA
Posts: 293
Default

Why does no 5900U reviews make any comments on the flickering issue? That I've read anyways.
__________________
AMD FX-57, Silver Cuplex XT
2gb Corsair XMS 3500
7900gtx sc 512mb DD nv-78
Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe, silver twinplex, alphacool mosfets
X-FI Fat
WD Raptor 74GB/Aquadrive
Coolermaster Stacker 830 3/8" tubing
PCP&C 510w SLI
2405FPW 24"
42" Sony Plasma
Boston 5.1
Badash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-03, 11:06 AM   #60
The Baron
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I don't think any reviewer has encountered it. And if a reviewer hasn't encountered it, well, they can't comment on it.
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Age of Empires Online interview: Tech trees and civ customization News Archived News Items 0 05-21-12 05:00 PM
Product Review ' SteelSeries Scope Gaming Eyewear by Gunnar News Archived News Items 0 05-18-12 09:30 PM
Product Spotlight ' EVGA GTX 670 Review Round Up News GeForce GTX 670 Reviews 1 05-11-12 12:15 AM
Coolest jobs in tech: from the pits of Le Mans to the dugouts of Fenway Park News Archived News Items 0 05-10-12 01:50 PM
nV News 9700 Review pelly Other Desktop Graphics Cards 45 10-17-02 12:53 AM

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 1998 - 2014, nV News.