Help with installing EVGA GeForce GTX 460

MattDee · 12-08-10, 11:57 PM

So, I thought this would be a piece of cake. We open up the computer and find the pci-e slots. One is open and one has something plugged into it. Then just above that, there is something that appears to be directly on the motherboard. There is no room to install this huge EVGA GeForce GTX 460 graphics card we just bought.

I read that this Gateway computer has an integrated graphics card....which means there is nothing to take out, correct? So what is it that is plugged in already to the pci slot? And what is the thing above that?

None of my computer paperwork shows anything about the inside of the computer and I've searched online and can't find what I need. Is anyone familiar with this type of Gateway machine or do you know where I can get resources online for more info?

Where exactly are you supposed to put an EVGA 460 graphics card?

Dee

ragejg · 12-09-10, 12:12 AM

Take a pic and post it here, or put it up on imageshack and post a link to it so we can see what you're talking about.

ragejg · 12-09-10, 12:14 AM

Also before you install this, go to add/remove programs and remove whatever display driver is there now; Intel or AMD or NVIDIA. Then shut the machine down. ... And don't use the drivers on the disc, download the newest ones from NVIDIA.

jkmetal · 12-09-10, 12:14 AM

You have a gateway computer... What is exact model of your gateway? How old is it? You need a PCI x16 slot for the gtx 460. I own the card myself and I have installed it on my machine. (Personally built computer)

If you have an integrated you don't have to take anything out, although you will need to install drivers. Just run the cd that game with your graphics card.

If you could take a picture of the inside of your computer that would help a lot.

MattDee · 12-09-10, 12:19 AM

You need a PCI x16 slot for the gtx 460.>>>>

Yep, we have that type of slot. Our computer is a Gateway GT5694. I'll try to get a pic. on tomorrow. Thanks!!!

jkmetal · 12-09-10, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattDee

You need a PCI x16 slot for the gtx 460.>>>>

Yep, we have that type of slot. Our computer is a Gateway GT5694. I'll try to get a pic. on tomorrow. Thanks!!!

The gateway website has tons of photos for your model. I found this one.

Thats what it looks like. Or should. Black with the clip on the end.

I also read that standard power supply for your model is 300w. The gtx 460 needs a power supply of at least 450w.

Side note... wow, big vendor support sites have gotten better since 2004..

MattDee · 12-09-10, 07:45 AM

The gateway website has tons of photos for your model. I found this one.>>>>

Can you tell me on which website you found that? I looked at a gateway website, and found a picture of the "inside" of the computer....but the most detailed it got was, "area 'E' is the motherboard" - no up close shots of specific slots.

And about the power supply thing.....does that mean this graphics card will not work with our computer? I really thought we had done our research and found a compatible one.

Thanks!

Dee

jkmetal · 12-09-10, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattDee

The gateway website has tons of photos for your model. I found this one.>>>>

Can you tell me on which website you found that? I looked at a gateway website, and found a picture of the "inside" of the computer....but the most detailed it got was, "area 'E' is the motherboard" - no up close shots of specific slots.

And about the power supply thing.....does that mean this graphics card will not work with our computer? I really thought we had done our research and found a compatible one.

Thanks!

Dee

This should be your mother board.

http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERB...06272Rnv.shtml

www.gateway.com

I found the information on that website, which appears to be the gateway official site. Have you tried installing your gfx card into the black slot?

If the power supply isn't strong enough then your card will not run. 300w isn't enough. You can open up your computer and look at the sticker on the psu, which is the metal box with all of the wires going out of it. It will say how many watts it produces.

MattDee · 12-09-10, 08:55 AM

Sorry these are so big....I wanted to be able to see the details. I believe the pci-e slot is the black slot above the 2 white pci slots? I don't know what it is that is already there. On the bottom in one of the pci slots there is a card that is attached to 2 phone jack slots on the back of the computer that say "LINK" and "POWER." The top "card" in the small black slot is connected to two red and green lights on the back of the computer that say "LINK" and "PWR". I think the new graphics card should go above this in the pci-e slot, but there is not room for it to fit. What are these cards already there?

MattDee · 12-09-10, 09:18 AM

Also, on the power supply issue......the box on the graphics card says it needs 2 six pin pci-e power supply cords. Would this take care of the power supply issue?

ragejg · 12-09-10, 09:50 AM

Gateway rates their power supplies differently than the third party manufacturers (at least they used to) so there's a good chance that it will work anyway. You'll need to use the the power connector cables that are in the card's box; hook one end to some open connections coming from the power supply and the other end to the connector on the card.

That card that's in your way is in a PCI-Express x1 slot; it's a PCI Express slot that runs at a lower speed than the slots that are primarily for graphics cards. It appears that the card might be a sound card. Remove it and post a pic.

jkmetal · 12-09-10, 10:34 AM

The black one is the one you want. Remove the soundcard and there will be room.

The pins look like this

They may already be connected to your powersupply, or adapters may have came with your card. Where did you buy it btw?

12-08-10, 11:57 PM	#1
MattDee Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 18	Help with installing EVGA GeForce GTX 460 So, I thought this would be a piece of cake. We open up the computer and find the pci-e slots. One is open and one has something plugged into it. Then just above that, there is something that appears to be directly on the motherboard. There is no room to install this huge EVGA GeForce GTX 460 graphics card we just bought. I read that this Gateway computer has an integrated graphics card....which means there is nothing to take out, correct? So what is it that is plugged in already to the pci slot? And what is the thing above that? None of my computer paperwork shows anything about the inside of the computer and I've searched online and can't find what I need. Is anyone familiar with this type of Gateway machine or do you know where I can get resources online for more info? Where exactly are you supposed to put an EVGA 460 graphics card? Dee

12-09-10, 12:12 AM	#2
ragejg nV News Alumni Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Finger Lakes of Hell, NY Posts: 5,399	Re: Help with installing EVGA GeForce GTX 460 Take a pic and post it here, or put it up on imageshack and post a link to it so we can see what you're talking about. __________________ 2010-2011 Reviews: GTX 570 \| GTX 580 \| GTS 450 \| GTX 460 \| GTX 465 Pre-2010 Reviews: 6600 GT \| XMS 4400 DDR \| SilenX Cooler \| 6800 \| 5900 XT \| Personal Cinema \| 5900 NU ______________________________________________ Phenom II x6 1090t @ 4.0 ghz \| Asus M498TD-EVO Am3 SLI nForce 980a \| 2x EVGA GTX 560 SLI \| 2x4gb DDR3-1333 \| Antec EarthWatts EA650 PSU \| 60gb Mushkin Calisto Enhanced Sandforce SSD \| 2x WD2500KS RAID 0 \| Sunbeam Tuniq 3 case \| 24" Asus 19x10 LED LCD \| 26" Panasonic 720p TV \| Sidewinder X5 mouse \| Logitech MX5500 & Revolution mouse \| Altec Lansing 5.1 THX-Certified audio \| Win 7 Ultimate \| desk \| couch "Stars must die so that I may live. I... stepped out of a Supernova."

12-09-10, 12:14 AM	#3
ragejg nV News Alumni Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Finger Lakes of Hell, NY Posts: 5,399	Re: Help with installing EVGA GeForce GTX 460 Also before you install this, go to add/remove programs and remove whatever display driver is there now; Intel or AMD or NVIDIA. Then shut the machine down. ... And don't use the drivers on the disc, download the newest ones from NVIDIA. __________________ 2010-2011 Reviews: GTX 570 \| GTX 580 \| GTS 450 \| GTX 460 \| GTX 465 Pre-2010 Reviews: 6600 GT \| XMS 4400 DDR \| SilenX Cooler \| 6800 \| 5900 XT \| Personal Cinema \| 5900 NU ______________________________________________ Phenom II x6 1090t @ 4.0 ghz \| Asus M498TD-EVO Am3 SLI nForce 980a \| 2x EVGA GTX 560 SLI \| 2x4gb DDR3-1333 \| Antec EarthWatts EA650 PSU \| 60gb Mushkin Calisto Enhanced Sandforce SSD \| 2x WD2500KS RAID 0 \| Sunbeam Tuniq 3 case \| 24" Asus 19x10 LED LCD \| 26" Panasonic 720p TV \| Sidewinder X5 mouse \| Logitech MX5500 & Revolution mouse \| Altec Lansing 5.1 THX-Certified audio \| Win 7 Ultimate \| desk \| couch "Stars must die so that I may live. I... stepped out of a Supernova."

12-09-10, 12:14 AM	#4
jkmetal Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 775	Re: Help with installing EVGA GeForce GTX 460 You have a gateway computer... What is exact model of your gateway? How old is it? You need a PCI x16 slot for the gtx 460. I own the card myself and I have installed it on my machine. (Personally built computer) If you have an integrated you don't have to take anything out, although you will need to install drivers. Just run the cd that game with your graphics card. If you could take a picture of the inside of your computer that would help a lot. __________________ Inter Q9950@stock. Scythe CPU cooler.4gigs Corsair ddr2 1066. Segate 1tb drive. Ati Theater Pro 650. Evga GTX460 768@845mhz. Win 7 64 Professional. Dell 2007wfp S-IPS. Dell P1130. Razer Deathadder. Ducky 87 key mechanical keyboard. Xbox 360 controller for windows.

12-09-10, 12:19 AM	#5
MattDee Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 18	Re: Help with installing EVGA GeForce GTX 460 You need a PCI x16 slot for the gtx 460.>>>> Yep, we have that type of slot. Our computer is a Gateway GT5694. I'll try to get a pic. on tomorrow. Thanks!!!

12-09-10, 07:45 AM	#7
MattDee Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 18	Re: Help with installing EVGA GeForce GTX 460 The gateway website has tons of photos for your model. I found this one.>>>> Can you tell me on which website you found that? I looked at a gateway website, and found a picture of the "inside" of the computer....but the most detailed it got was, "area 'E' is the motherboard" - no up close shots of specific slots. And about the power supply thing.....does that mean this graphics card will not work with our computer? I really thought we had done our research and found a compatible one. Thanks! Dee

12-09-10, 08:55 AM	#9
MattDee Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 18	Re: Help with installing EVGA GeForce GTX 460 Sorry these are so big....I wanted to be able to see the details. I believe the pci-e slot is the black slot above the 2 white pci slots? I don't know what it is that is already there. On the bottom in one of the pci slots there is a card that is attached to 2 phone jack slots on the back of the computer that say "LINK" and "POWER." The top "card" in the small black slot is connected to two red and green lights on the back of the computer that say "LINK" and "PWR". I think the new graphics card should go above this in the pci-e slot, but there is not room for it to fit. What are these cards already there?

12-09-10, 09:18 AM	#10
MattDee Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 18	Re: Help with installing EVGA GeForce GTX 460 Also, on the power supply issue......the box on the graphics card says it needs 2 six pin pci-e power supply cords. Would this take care of the power supply issue?

12-09-10, 09:50 AM	#11
ragejg nV News Alumni Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Finger Lakes of Hell, NY Posts: 5,399	Re: Help with installing EVGA GeForce GTX 460 Gateway rates their power supplies differently than the third party manufacturers (at least they used to) so there's a good chance that it will work anyway. You'll need to use the the power connector cables that are in the card's box; hook one end to some open connections coming from the power supply and the other end to the connector on the card. That card that's in your way is in a PCI-Express x1 slot; it's a PCI Express slot that runs at a lower speed than the slots that are primarily for graphics cards. It appears that the card might be a sound card. Remove it and post a pic. __________________ 2010-2011 Reviews: GTX 570 \| GTX 580 \| GTS 450 \| GTX 460 \| GTX 465 Pre-2010 Reviews: 6600 GT \| XMS 4400 DDR \| SilenX Cooler \| 6800 \| 5900 XT \| Personal Cinema \| 5900 NU ______________________________________________ Phenom II x6 1090t @ 4.0 ghz \| Asus M498TD-EVO Am3 SLI nForce 980a \| 2x EVGA GTX 560 SLI \| 2x4gb DDR3-1333 \| Antec EarthWatts EA650 PSU \| 60gb Mushkin Calisto Enhanced Sandforce SSD \| 2x WD2500KS RAID 0 \| Sunbeam Tuniq 3 case \| 24" Asus 19x10 LED LCD \| 26" Panasonic 720p TV \| Sidewinder X5 mouse \| Logitech MX5500 & Revolution mouse \| Altec Lansing 5.1 THX-Certified audio \| Win 7 Ultimate \| desk \| couch "Stars must die so that I may live. I... stepped out of a Supernova."

12-09-10, 10:34 AM	#12
jkmetal Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 775	Re: Help with installing EVGA GeForce GTX 460 The black one is the one you want. Remove the soundcard and there will be room. The pins look like this They may already be connected to your powersupply, or adapters may have came with your card. Where did you buy it btw? __________________ Inter Q9950@stock. Scythe CPU cooler.4gigs Corsair ddr2 1066. Segate 1tb drive. Ati Theater Pro 650. Evga GTX460 768@845mhz. Win 7 64 Professional. Dell 2007wfp S-IPS. Dell P1130. Razer Deathadder. Ducky 87 key mechanical keyboard. Xbox 360 controller for windows.