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Old 01-07-11, 12:24 PM   #61
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When the 920 is similarly clocked (or any i7/i5 @ 3.4Ghz for example), the differences are negligible and certainly not worth the hassle of a completely new build IMHO. This certainly is not an X58 killer by any means. That will come in Q2.

For Qxxxx users, this is a great upgrade, but unless you absolutely have to have the latest and greatest, there is little to recommend this over a similarly clocked 920 (or other 9xx) in terms of performance.

It's a shame we have to wait for the real next gen stuff. This is just yesterday's performance today with some enhancements and very attractive pricing (I'm not interested in power consumption, on chip GPU etc).
I guess you ignore all the reviews or you preffer to spend much more money, the only way you get more performance in near future.

So how about the rumored and overpriced Core i7 995x EE. It should cost around $1000 but you can get one right now for $1.500. My guess is, it's not going to be much faster than the i7-2600K.

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Well according to the cpubenchmark.net the Intel Core i7 995X @ 3.60GHz is not much faster than the Intel Core i7 980X @ 3.33GHz. In that case I was right that it is not going to be much faster than i7-2600K. As always the Intel Extreme Edition is one of the most overpriced PC part.
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Old 01-07-11, 12:29 PM   #62
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I guess you ignore all the reviews or you preffer to spend much more money, the only way you get more performance in near future.

So how about the rumored and overpriced Core i7 995x EE. It should cost around $1000 but you can get one right now for $1.500. My guess is, it's not going to be much faster than the i7-2600K.
No, I simply stated that these are not 'X58 killers' and they are not a good upgrade in terms of performance for those with current, similarly clocked X58 setups.

Try not to put words in my mouth or go off on ridiculous tangents
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Old 01-07-11, 12:54 PM   #63
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No, I simply stated that these are not 'X58 killers' and they are not a good upgrade in terms of performance for those with current, similarly clocked X58 setups.

Try not to put words in my mouth or go off on ridiculous tangents
And I simply stated it's definitely X58 killer and awesome upgrade for most X58 setups. Without putting any words in your mouth.

Further about your reply:
The only way to compare the CPUs is on base clocks or both overclocked and in that case the i5-2500K & i7-2600K are much bigger winners and one more reason to upgrade.

But I do understand some people are not ready to upgrade but that should not be good reason to discourage others which are ready, since it's great upgrade at great price.
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Old 01-07-11, 01:00 PM   #64
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You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine.

There is nothing with regards to performance that recommends these over similarly clocked i7 9xx CPUs.

My statement was very clear, these are not a good upgrade for current X58 owners where performance is concerned.

Why bother when the true Next gen part is only ~6 months away?

I was equally clear that they are a great upgrade for users with older platforms.
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Old 01-07-11, 01:08 PM   #65
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You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine.

There is nothing with regards to performance that recommends these over similarly clocked i7 9xx CPUs.

My statement was very clear, these are not a good upgrade for current X58 owners where performance is concerned.

Why bother when the true Next gen part is only ~6 months away?

I was equally clear that they are a great upgrade for users with older platforms.
So it goes back to what I origionaly stated. "I guess you ignore all the reviews". My opinion is definitely not very important.

Plus as I said if there is going to be anything much faster in 6 months you have to be ready to spend MUCH MORE MONEY.
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Old 01-07-11, 02:25 PM   #66
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No, I simply stated that these are not 'X58 killers' and they are not a good upgrade in terms of performance for those with current, similarly clocked X58 setups.

Try not to put words in my mouth or go off on ridiculous tangents
agreed.
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Old 01-07-11, 03:00 PM   #67
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Not sure what reviews you're looking at. Overall, the 2600K is not faster than the 980X. Even in software type specific overall scores it's not faster. Only games are faster because of the higher clock and Turbo clocks.

And that's a sad thing to say about a brand new generation of CPUs... This is what annoys me about this release.
I disagree. Comparable performance in the things that matter (at least to me, and most other people unless you're doing certain types of work...of course you're going to want 12 threads in those situations and you can probably afford a $1k CPU) at less than 1/3 the cost is impressive IMO.

Oh and I did I mention MUCH lower power draw?
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Not sure what reviews you're looking at. Overall, the 2600K is not faster than the 980X. Even in software type specific overall scores it's not faster. Only games are faster because of the higher clock and Turbo clocks.

And that's a sad thing to say about a brand new generation of CPUs... This is what annoys me about this release.
Assessing which CPU is faster depends largely on the sort of test or application being used to make the assessment. Tests or applications that can use more than 4 cores will very likely show that the 980X performs better. But, I seriously hope that doesn't surprise anyone. The 980X has two more cores than the 2600K! However, just about every test I've seen shows that on a core to core basis the 2600K performs better than the 980X (in some cases the performance difference is quite a bit more than merely marginal). Also, with a decent overclock the 2600K could probably match and even exceed the performance of the 980X in those tests and applications that are multithreaded in the right ways such that they can take advantage of the additional cores of the 980X. I think there are some good reasons not to be completely satisfied by the 1155 platform, but I'm not sure performance is one of those reasons.
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Old 01-08-11, 01:50 AM   #69
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Not sure what reviews you're looking at. Overall, the 2600K is not faster than the 980X. Even in software type specific overall scores it's not faster. Only games are faster because of the higher clock and Turbo clocks.

And that's a sad thing to say about a brand new generation of CPUs... This is what annoys me about this release.
How are you disappointed when only the low-end of the Sandy Bridge family has thus far been revealed/released?

We still haven't seen the performance figures for the socket 1365 and 2011 procs. Maybe your expectations are simply unjustified at the moment.

Given the segment of the market the benched procs have been announced for, the performance is pretty good.
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I have ordered a 2500k. Can't wait. 980x performance in games for a fraction of the price is too good to pass up.
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I have no idea what is Intel doing. This CPU generation is overblown into 29 SKUs, what a mess.

Here is my take on this.

LGA1156 and LGA1155 are crappola. I only believe in LGA1366 (kick ass) and upcoming LGA2011.
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I have no idea what is Intel doing. This CPU generation is overblown into 29 SKUs, what a mess.

Here is my take on this.

LGA1156 and LGA1155 are crappola. I only believe in LGA1366 (kick ass) and upcoming LGA2011.
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