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Old 04-06-11, 06:34 PM   #37
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Somebody doesn't know Sandy Bridge very well, obviously. SB doesn't have as high a thermal tolerance as Nehalem. 85C is maximum recommended temp for SB. Maybe check some specs before opening the mouth? Your situation is irrelevant to the OP, as is your advice.
Obviously you don't as there is no recommended temp listed by Intel. Also, his temps were about 85C so according to you its fine.

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=52214

Tcase is 72.6C, which is about a 98c TJmax. TJmax if you didnt know is when the CPU will start to throttle. Anything under that is fine for the CPU as it was designed to be able to run up to those temperatures and last its full lifetime.
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Old 04-06-11, 06:48 PM   #38
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Obviously you don't as there is no recommended temp listed by Intel. Also, his temps were about 85C so according to you its fine.

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=52214

Tcase is 72.6C, which is about a 98c TJmax. TJmax if you didnt know is when the CPU will start to throttle. Anything under that is fine for the CPU as it was designed to be able to run up to those temperatures and last its full lifetime.
Some folks need more time at Xtremesystems forum or should shut up. 85C causes Sandy Bridge to begin losing stability and is the generally accepted END limit. And your SILLY assumption of 98c is a JOKE. Quit making crap up! 72C tcase is NOT 98C tjmax on Sandy Bridge. You are giving ignorant and DANGEROUS information that is false.

Nehalem does not equal Sandy Bridge. Quit giving your inexperienced advice.

Furthermore, thermal throttling kicks in at 90C on SB. Guess no experience is still hurting your non-advice?
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Old 04-06-11, 07:18 PM   #39
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Some folks need more time at Xtremesystems forum or should shut up. 85C causes Sandy Bridge to begin losing stability and is the generally accepted END limit. And your SILLY assumption of 98c is a JOKE. Quit making crap up! 72C tcase is NOT 98C tjmax on Sandy Bridge. You are giving ignorant and DANGEROUS information that is false.
Since all my information is false how about you step up and provide true information? You said it yourself 85c is the max safe temp, and his cpu was at that temp.

He is not overclocking. He doesn't even have a CPU that can overclock. Sure 85C is a bit too hot if you are pumping more voltage into a cpu that you are overclocking. You won't find an app that will load your cpu more IBT/Prime95. Chances are it doesn't even get near that temp under gaming. But wait... It was still within your specified range.. funny.. If it was over 90c I would have said it was too hot.

TJ is measured from the die and will always be higher than Tcase. You can even look at the coretemp and see that it says 99c.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...75&postcount=9
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=268291
http://www.overclock.net/12101760-post129.html

It does seem that it starts to throttle at 95-98c.
http://www.overclock.net/12022200-post118.html

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Old 04-06-11, 07:31 PM   #40
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hai u guyz

Did you see the issues been resolved?

Also, I see that my Celeron 430 heatsink is actually a bit thicker than the stock 2600 one. Of coarse the 2600 cooler DOES have a circle of copper.
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Old 04-06-11, 07:38 PM   #41
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hai u guyz

Did you see the issues been resolved?
Nah, this other guy seems butthurt still that my ssd's don't slow to a crawl after I use them so he decides to argue with me when I am agreeing with him. LOL
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I'm feeling a lot of angst. Maybe we should all hold hands and sing kumbaya.
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You are spot on... Heat kills, whether it's stock or overclocked.

Also I'm sorry to hear about your previous misfortunes. I actually have a pentium 4 from 2003 and an opteron 165 from 2006 that are both still in service. They were heavily overclocked and still continue to operate effectively. Maybe I'm just lucky but I really doubt overclocking with decent cooling is ever going to be as risky as people make it out to be. Especially if moderate voltages are applied
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Old 04-07-11, 05:18 PM   #44
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Nah, this other guy seems butthurt still that my ssd's don't slow to a crawl after I use them so he decides to argue with me when I am agreeing with him. LOL
Spin much? It was your immediate jerk attitude I called for what it was. You turned a perfectly good discussion into a flame battle by being full of yourself when I was helping out. The only butt-hurt was yours when you failed to prove TRIM isn't important. Pulling week old pics out and calling em a year old is so bunk.
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Old 04-08-11, 12:47 AM   #45
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Spin much? It was your immediate jerk attitude I called for what it was. You turned a perfectly good discussion into a flame battle by being full of yourself when I was helping out. The only butt-hurt was yours when you failed to prove TRIM isn't important. Pulling week old pics out and calling em a year old is so bunk.
You're so full of yourself. I never said TRIM isn't important, I said Garbage Collection can do just as a good job.

Also, here is your week old pic a year ago. Funny. Seems like you're the one with the attitude. You call me out and ask for proof on my SSD's which I gladly provide. Then you decide to call me a liar after I show you what you want. I have no reason to lie to you, let alone about something so stupid like SSD speeds.



So yes, that picture is in fact a year old. Bunk.
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