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Old 04-15-11, 03:54 PM   #13
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If I do get an SSD, I'll get one by Corsair. My dad has an OCZ Vertex and it doesn't make a bit of difference on his computer, though it is set in RAID mode, so that might be why. RAID mode...no TRIM.

I might get this one...but it's just so freaking small

Corsair Performance 3 Series P3-256 SSD

Same with this...

OCZ Vertex 3 240GB SSD

My Steam folder is 200 GBs by itself.

I guess I'll just wait for the next gen of these in 2012, when SSD goes mainstream.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3734/s...ood-hybrid-hdd
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In many cases the Momentus XT performs like a VelociRaptor, but in a lower power, quieter package. The impact of adding just a small amount of SLC NAND is tremendous. I wonder what kept Western Digital from sticking some NAND on its VelociRaptor instead of giving us the lackluster upgrade we got earlier this year.
I just installed one of these in my laptop and it's the best mix of speed and size I've seen yet.
500Gb hybrid for $119 at Bestbuy.
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Old 04-15-11, 05:43 PM   #14
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Honestly, I have found 1 game that benefitted from being installed to my secondary SSD- Oblivion.

Granted, my newest HDD is around 5 years old now so likely newer drives are faster. However, in Oblivion when on horseback there's a horrid pausing as the game loads new areas. When on foot it's not noticable at all due to how slow you're moving. On horseback it's quite noticable because of how much faster you're moving.

Installing the game to the SSD eliminated this for me entirely.

Beyond Oblivion no other game that I've installed to my SSD has shown any noticable benefit.
Most games preload an entire level. It makes no difference once its loaded. Loading is faster with SSD, but other than that I don't see a reason to get one...yet.

I'd rather spend $500 on a new graphics card.
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Old 04-15-11, 05:44 PM   #15
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/3734/s...ood-hybrid-hdd

I just installed one of these in my laptop and it's the best mix of speed and size I've seen yet.
500Gb hybrid for $119 at Bestbuy.
Thanks, will look into this.
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Old 04-15-11, 05:56 PM   #16
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If I do get an SSD, I'll get one by Corsair. My dad has an OCZ Vertex and it doesn't make a bit of difference on his computer, though it is set in RAID mode, so that might be why. RAID mode...no TRIM.
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Loading is faster with SSD, but other than that I don't see a reason to get one...yet.
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Old 04-15-11, 05:59 PM   #17
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stop right there please.
I've looked into RAID mode and TRIM on Intel Matrix Storage. It's a no go.
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I've looked into RAID mode and TRIM on Intel Matrix Storage. It's a no go.
I think you missed my point.
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Old 04-15-11, 07:11 PM   #19
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The thing that SSD's bring is virtually instantaneous access times for OS files and critical programs. Except for a few, SSDs make virtually no difference in games.

I feel like myself and others are beating a dead horse here. It's your choice, but there is no substitute for an SSD for your OS. Velociraptors can't come close to touching that sort of speed. Also, remember that SSD's use almost no energy and are silent. Those are nice perks.
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The thing that SSD's bring is virtually instantaneous access times for OS files and critical programs. Except for a few, SSDs make virtually no difference in games.

I feel like myself and others are beating a dead horse here. It's your choice, but there is no substitute for an SSD for your OS. Velociraptors can't come close to touching that sort of speed. Also, remember that SSD's use almost no energy and are silent. Those are nice perks.
The guy bought a KIller NIC. Enough said.
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Old 04-15-11, 07:30 PM   #21
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The thing that SSD's bring is virtually instantaneous access times for OS files and critical programs. Except for a few, SSDs make virtually no difference in games.

I feel like myself and others are beating a dead horse here. It's your choice, but there is no substitute for an SSD for your OS. Velociraptors can't come close to touching that sort of speed. Also, remember that SSD's use almost no energy and are silent. Those are nice perks.
It's still much too expensive for the amount of space it offers. Just last year it was 60GB SSD for $700 and now it's 240GB. I'll wait until next year when it goes mainstream.

I know it has 0.01ms access time as opposed to 15ms for a hard drive. There's no comparison. I would LOVE to have one, but it does NOT suit my needs. I NEED room over speed. I'll probably just end up getting 4 WD RE4 2TB drives and putting them into RAID 0 mode. I'll put 2 for my C drive and another 2 for my Storage. Or I can simply do RAID 5, but I prefer 2 separate arrays.

Buying an SSD now is a waste of money. Next year there will be faster SSDs with more memory. It seems it quadruples in memory every year and the price also goes down, so why buy it now? Pretty soon Western Digital and Seagate will be making SSDs, though I'm sure they'll suck since they're a hard drive company and not a memory company like Corsair and OCZ. It will however bring prices down and competition is great.
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Old 04-15-11, 07:34 PM   #22
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The guy bought a KIller NIC. Enough said.
And it works great, thanks for asking. It doesn't do magic, but it's better than onboard.
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Wow guys- way to be a bunch of ass hats.

It's his money- let him spend it how he pleases. Offer advice, yes- but don't be a bunch of deuches just because he's spending his cash in a manner you disagree with.

If he wants to sport a s754 Sempron, 64MB of RAM with a 500GB ATA100 8MB Cache HDD, while dropping a GTX590 in that bad boy let him. It's his money. Advise- but don't redicule, insult, or any other such crap.

Dude, AngelGraves- if you can find a good deal on a used SSD I'd at least consider getting it. I'm in the same boat as you regarding needing capacity over speed. However, the two SSDs I have now I purchased from members here- the prices were spot on, and I've not regretted it at all. It does make a huge difference.

If you cannot find a good deal on a used SSD, then don't bother. You'll be very pleased with those 2TB drives in RAID as you mentioned. You'll get good performance with lots of storage- I'd count that as a win in my book.
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Old 04-15-11, 09:37 PM   #24
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Wow guys- way to be a bunch of ass hats.

It's his money- let him spend it how he pleases. Offer advice, yes- but don't be a bunch of deuches just because he's spending his cash in a manner you disagree with.

If he wants to sport a s754 Sempron, 64MB of RAM with a 500GB ATA100 8MB Cache HDD, while dropping a GTX590 in that bad boy let him. It's his money. Advise- but don't redicule, insult, or any other such crap.

Dude, AngelGraves- if you can find a good deal on a used SSD I'd at least consider getting it. I'm in the same boat as you regarding needing capacity over speed. However, the two SSDs I have now I purchased from members here- the prices were spot on, and I've not regretted it at all. It does make a huge difference.

If you cannot find a good deal on a used SSD, then don't bother. You'll be very pleased with those 2TB drives in RAID as you mentioned. You'll get good performance with lots of storage- I'd count that as a win in my book.
True, an SSD would be nice, but I need more room for my Steam games. I only have 10 games installed and it hits about 200GBs. Add in Adobe CS5 and other programs I use and 240GB is simply not enough space. I'd have to buy the 400GB SSD which is $1400, which is a joke considering next year a 1TB SSD will be around $400.
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