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Old 04-27-11, 08:36 PM   #25
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That's the thing. Prices are a lot different here of course but the 120Hz TN panels are crazy overpriced too.

Ok, they're fast but still crappy TN products.
Yeah...it's like do I want something that's fast and decent looking or something that's normal and exceptional looking. I do use Photoshop a lot, so the Adobe RGB color space would come in handy.
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Old 04-28-11, 02:01 AM   #26
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That's the thing. Prices are a lot different here of course but the 120Hz TN panels are crazy overpriced too.

Ok, they're fast but still crappy TN products.
How do you find the blurring on the IPS panels. It's just that there is a big sale down here with HP IPS and I was going to get 3 for some surround fun. They are only the 24" 1920x1200 ZR24W screen. I can get 3 of them and they are still $600 cheaper that a single 30" HP IPS like you have.

The only thing that worries me is if the screen is blurry from fast past action. I play in a Clan and need every little bit of help I can get. That is were 120Hz makes a massive difference, almost zero blurring. It helps when doing a fast turn. I have so many knife fights and 99 times out of 100, I win.

So your feed back is much appreciated.
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Old 04-28-11, 05:38 AM   #27
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I have no issue with ghosting on those screens. This goes for all kinds of game genres, from shooters (including your favorite BC2) to racing and flight sims. But keep in mind, I've been always using those type of slow but high quality panels so I'm more used their performance in games.
You're coming from super fast panels so I'm sure you'll find a drastic difference there.

If you're main concern are those clanwars, keep your fast TN stuff. It's not that the IPS stuff doesn't work in clanwars but I'm sure you'll be distracted by some ghosting anyway.
If you're also doing other tasks like photo editing or just like to have great screens, get the HPs - the deal sounds great
I still would like to try out the HP's. I like the fact that they are 1920x1200 instead of 1920x1080. It always looks squashed when I have it next to my other Samsung.

The deal is pretty sweet. I would love what you have, but that is just not an option as it is to far out of my budget.
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Old 05-04-11, 02:40 PM   #28
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Well, I just got an LG W2363D 120Hz to test 3D myself. About time

I know silly already got a screen but after using a 120Hz screen in Windows all I can say is: Get an IPS, no doubt about that!
The quality of TN panels is just ridiculously bad. Even on a small 23" like this one, the colors aren't the same on the upper left compared to the lower right when looking at the screen! And it just kills the whole image when moving just a bit to the side.
I know that you have the same standards that I have with displays, but you have far more disposable income than I do (it seems ) so I appreciate you biting the bullet and trying one out.
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Old 05-04-11, 04:27 PM   #29
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How much of a difference can you notice in games with 120hz vs 60hz? Is the 120hz much smoother?
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Old 05-04-11, 05:12 PM   #30
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How much of a difference can you notice in games with 120hz vs 60hz? Is the 120hz much smoother?
I've had a 120hz monitor for about a year now, or more...can't remember.

When in 120hz mode, the mouse is much smoother and doesn't lag as much, especially in games with mouse lag.

Another thing, in MPC-HC I'm able to keep perfect sync in movies, meaning the green and red lines are flat, which is impossible in 60hz.

Games are much smoother and less lag overall.

120hz is fantastic, just wish I had 178/178 degree viewing angles
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Old 05-04-11, 06:22 PM   #31
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Still loving my 24" AMVA panel. It takes the best of IPS and TN and rolls it into 1 product. Response time is excellent, no ghosting, excellent colour reproduction, loads of ports including HDMI, awesome viewing angles and very impressive brightness and contrast ratio.

Only the Dell ultrasharps come anywhere near the quality and so have decided that 3D gaming for me atm is a certain no. Maybe when i see a 27" IPS at 2560x1400 resolution running at 120hz with good colour reproduction i might be tempted but theres no way id sacrifice the quality i get now to go TN panel 3D.
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Still loving my 24" AMVA panel. It takes the best of IPS and TN and rolls it into 1 product. Response time is excellent, no ghosting, excellent colour reproduction, loads of ports including HDMI, awesome viewing angles and very impressive brightness and contrast ratio.

Only the Dell ultrasharps come anywhere near the quality and so have decided that 3D gaming for me atm is a certain no. Maybe when i see a 27" IPS at 2560x1400 resolution running at 120hz with good colour reproduction i might be tempted but theres no way id sacrifice the quality i get now to go TN panel 3D.
There will never be a 120hz IPS. PLS maybe, and OLED for sure.

PLS is samsung's new Super IPS.
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How much of a difference can you notice in games with 120hz vs 60hz? Is the 120hz much smoother?
The difference is massive for an online game like Bad Company 2. I must admit though, I love the surround gaming. Multi monitor is the way to go if you can afford it.
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Well, multi-monitoring is also possible with 120Hz screens. The real advantage of your new setup are the IPS panels
Yes, you are right there. These are also perfect for a multi monitor setup in that the bezels are very thin. It is why I couldn't use 3 of the LG's. The bezel just doesn't suit a 3 monitor setup. Not to mention the very low refresh rate and low to non existent input lag. So these HP's are winners imo.
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I have the ASUS VG236H and I love it. For a single monitor setup I wouldn't trade my 120hz monitor an IPS, the difference in smoothness, even at the desktop, is too huge to go back to a 60hz screen. Also, the ability to leave Vsync off and still not suffer tearing is nice.

As far as color or 2d issues, I don't seem to have those issues with this monitor or I just don't notice it. I do know that the LG is bad for anything other than gaming because of the way the overdrive works on that monitor, so that might be the cause of some of the complaints.


Either way, these are still TN panels, and if you hated them before you will hate them now. For me, I mainly do two things on my PC, gaming and web browsing, and both of those work great with this monitor.
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I never had any issues with the LG in Windows. The colours aren't as nice as these HP's, that's for sure. But the text was razor sharp and I quite liked it.
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