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Old 12-13-11, 11:17 PM   #109
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Seems at Fudzilla they are reporting a 28nm piece at Santa Clara? But the person they asked did not specify Kepler....

So does this mean no keplers and just die shrinks of the current mainstream and mobile parts? or did that person deliberately not confirm kepler to keep everyone guessing when they really have it...

...silly season!!!!!!
IIRC, leaked NV roadmaps show them releasing crappy die-shrink versions of current low-end chips first, with high end not coming until may-june. The high end was more of a mainstream though, supposedly the real high end isnt until end of 2012.
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Given their last two enthusiast launches, the Blowdryer 6990
Yeah it was terrible, it only outsold the 590 by what, 10 times? LOL.
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Old 12-13-11, 11:49 PM   #111
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Always amazing how on the NVIDIA fansite half the posts are OT flames directed at NVIDIA products. Pretty amazing NVIDIA keeps dominating their competition financially with a fan base like this.
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I do have to congratulate Nvidia on their brain washing techniques though, as it works extremely well on certain test subjects....All they see is green and completely ignore paast screwups from their beloved company...


Now while i'm at it Rollo, you do realise that the only reason why you have SLI support on the intel boards in your signature, is because Intel didn't renew it's chipset licence with Nvidia with regards to CPU's with built in memory controlers, wich majorly pissed off Nvidia btw since they'd still have a chipset business today, and they would keep on locking SLI to their chipsets exclusively, just like the old days....


Something to think about right there isn't it?....
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Kepler talk thanks
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Old 12-14-11, 07:23 AM   #114
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Kepler talk thanks
http://www.nordichardware.com/news/7...res-rumor.html

Launching the GTX560Ti refresh in Q1 and the GTX580Ti refresh in Q2 probably makes more sense than the other way around. The $300 market is a LOT bigger than the $500 market.

It's also possible the 104 chips will be close enough to the 7970s that people just opt for them to get NVIDIA's superior drivers. ATi has shown us many times people will buy a cheaper card with 85-90% of the performance, NVIDIA has shown us many times people will pay for their brand name.

If this NordicHardware article is true, the 7970's alleged "first to market" strategy may well be rendered largely irrelevant.
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Old 12-14-11, 01:43 PM   #115
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Launching the GTX560Ti refresh in Q1 and the GTX580Ti refresh in Q2 probably makes more sense than the other way around. The $300 market is a LOT bigger than the $500 market.

It's also possible the 104 chips will be close enough to the 7970s that people just opt for them to get NVIDIA's superior drivers. ATi has shown us many times people will buy a cheaper card with 85-90% of the performance, NVIDIA has shown us many times people will pay for their brand name.

If this NordicHardware article is true, the 7970's alleged "first to market" strategy may well be rendered largely irrelevant.

The article you linked clearly states that the GK 100 is the one that's really intended to take on the HD7900 series and that's only showing up in Q2, so how does a GK 104, even assuming it's faster than the current GTX580, stand a chance to "hold the fort" against the HD7970 cards, when the single GPU 7970 are rumored to be as fast as the HD6990/GTX590 cards anyhow.


That GK 104 would need a massive speed increase over the current GPU powering up the GTX560 cards, and you can be sure once they are eventually released, Nvidia wouldn't sell them for 300$ either, and i'm not even mentioning the HD7990 Dual Gpu version due in march, and now long it'll take Nvidia to make a dual kepler GK100 GPU card to compete with that...
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why are you guys bitching at each other about GPU's that are just rumors.
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why are you guys bitching at each other about GPU's that are just rumors.

True indeed when it comes to Nvidia since we haven't seen any pictures or expected performance levels on gaming or any accurate technical details, or any confirmed exact release date by multiple sites like what's been happening with the HD7000 series for the past couple of weeks.


Q2 for kepler GK100 could be anywhere from april to june for all we know afterall.
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Old 12-14-11, 04:07 PM   #118
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True indeed when it comes to Nvidia since we haven't seen any pictures or expected performance levels on gaming or any accurate technical details, or any confirmed exact release date by multiple sites like what's been happening with the HD7000 series for the past couple of weeks.


Q2 for kepler GK100 could be anywhere from april to june for all we know afterall.
LOL

"My vaporware rumors have more substance than your vaporware rumors!"

Of course, out in the real world, about half of the people will buy ATi cards, half will buy NVIDIA, and what we say on the forums won't matter at all.
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LOL

"My vaporware rumors have more substance than your vaporware rumors!"

Of course, out in the real world, about half of the people will buy ATi cards, half will buy NVIDIA, and what we say on the forums won't matter at all.

Vaporware rumors with a litte over 3 weeks to go in ATI's case though is my point....


Bottom line is that i've had both ATI and Nvidia video cards at any given time when one had the lead over the other, be it in performance terms or when one was released well ahead of the other and the performance increase substancial enough....I wait for no hardware company nor care for either one.....Who ever has it out first and hits it's performance mark gets my vote, plain and simple.


Let's face it, when GPU makers are in the process of releasing GPU's with 4~5 billion transistors, it simply can't suck in any aspect....This isn't the early 2000's where GPU's only had a little over 100 million transistors....We're at a point where they're 40 times higher on transistor budget, and not just for games anymore, and i'm thinking of using at least 3 of these monsters in my system....Overkill, yup but that's the way i like it...
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Of course, out in the real world, about half of the people will buy ATi cards, half will buy NVIDIA, and what we say on the forums won't matter at all.
Better let nvidia know so they can stop paying you then.
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