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Old 06-10-11, 02:44 PM   #73
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I guess the point I am trying to make is that Nintendo is showing great hubris with this console. Granted, they dominated the last gen so far, but over the last year the XB360 has absolutely spanked them. PS3 is also doing fairly well and nobody knows where the race will end in ten years time....the lifespan of the console.

However, I digress. Essentially, Nintendo has brought this pseudo-tablet to the market, because they want to be different and "innovative." However, the iPAD/iPAD2 crushes them and does it better. Gamers don't give a flick about the screen when its influence on whats on your big screen is irrelevant, or worse distracting. I hope XB360 and PS3 have some sort of Steam service fully implemented along with terabyte HD's so you can just download the game on day one for a discount or pay a little more for the pretty box . Moreover, I want DirectX11 or more in my next console with AA and AF (for definitions search the web). Nvidia GTX480/580 or better power with all the bells or whistles. IF 3D is your thing then full support.

That is truly next gen. The WiiU is just evolutionary and nothing that special IMO.
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Old 06-10-11, 02:49 PM   #74
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the controller looks like a handheld gamecube mod


I expect the 3D version will be the next iteration.
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Old 06-10-11, 03:56 PM   #75
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the controller looks like a handheld gamecube mod


I expect the 3D version will be the next iteration.
It reminds me of these products.

http://www.vtechkids.com/

I don't get why people hate Nintendo so much. it is mostly 20 something guys that have a bug up their butt about Nintendo. They know Nintendo is not aimed at the single 20-35 male but they still get on their case about it. It is weird. If you know the products are not targeted towards you then why do you worry about them?

And who cares which system sold more? If it has games I want to play I'll pick up the system. Frankly I think we are completely spoiled in the video game hobby and that is the problem. To many 20 something kids who think they are adults are spoiled with all the choices in hardware and software. Pfft, I remember when all you had was pong or the body tables at the arcade.
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Old 06-10-11, 04:25 PM   #76
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I use to think that but after playing Mario Kart and Zelda for the 10th time with only minor changes to their gameplay I cannot see the value anymore. After seeing the Skyward Sword gameplay I am just so not interested in it. Its basically Wind Waker with flight, I mean they even mentioned that you will have to return the the main island multiple times throughout the story... ugh.
I have waited for 1:1 sword:controller controls for a very very long time. I don't particularly like the art direction of Skyward Sword, but from what I have been hearing at E3 the controls are extremely tight and the game sounds bad ass.
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Old 06-10-11, 04:27 PM   #77
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I guess the point I am trying to make is that Nintendo is showing great hubris with this console. Granted, they dominated the last gen so far, but over the last year the XB360 has absolutely spanked them. PS3 is also doing fairly well and nobody knows where the race will end in ten years time....the lifespan of the console.
Have you actually taken a look at the numbers? The only console that is outselling the Wii is the PS3 in JAPAN ONLY. Last week the Wii destroyed the XBOX360 in sales. Total sales are $30+ million more than the 360.
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Old 06-10-11, 04:39 PM   #78
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Ok Zelda , I figured you would have been the first response. Let's go through the math if you will. The Wii, while wildly popular with pre-pubescent children (ala Zelda) and soccer moms, was abandoned en masse by all the big name publishers. Name me a game besider Mario Galaxy (I believe) that had any mass appeal. The biggest games were party games. The graphics sucked and barely better then the Gamecube. No HD. Financial success, but critically very weak. Best games hands down are on the XB360 and then the PS3.

The Wii U...reinventing the wheel again. Funky controller, questionable power considering it is released five years after the other guys, and still no Blu Ray. Proprietary CD/DVD tech. Limited tablet controller...now if it were fifty percent of a IPAD2 then cool...but alas it is not. I just don't see it. The average twelve year will jump for joy but get your average 20-40 year old gamer and it is not a console you are salivating over.

Personally, I am waiting for the XB720 or PS4. They may be revolutionary. The WiiU is just an update on what the Wii should have been five years ago. Have fun with NintendoDogs 2
Your problem is that you cannot fathom how anyone other than an eLiTE pCg4MAR! would be interested in playing a video game. Hardcore gamers are a very tiny, small percentage of the population, and their ideal system is on the other side of the planet compared to what the public wants. I hate to break it to you nico, but people other than pencil dick nerds have an interest in playing video games. The general public does not give a **** that a game runs in 1080p or has "megatextures" or horse**** like that.

Example A: I dated a girl a few months ago (something you ought to try sometime), and she had a Wii at her apartment. She asked me if I wanted to play a game and I said sure, so she popped in "Michael Jackson Dance Moves." From a technical standpoint, it was a very badly designed game with low production values, but you know what? It was a lot of fun because I was interacting with A GIRL as opposed to beating off to porn like most ElIT3 pC G4M4R$$$ do.

That is the value of systems like the Wii and the WiiU. They provide an option to people who don't want to sit in front of a display monitor for eight hours hardcore and play the latest "God of War" title.
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Old 06-10-11, 05:04 PM   #79
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Your problem is that you cannot fathom how anyone other than an eLiTE pCg4MAR! would be interested in playing a video game. Hardcore gamers are a very tiny, small percentage of the population, and their ideal system is on the other side of the planet compared to what the public wants. I hate to break it to you nico, but people other than pencil dick nerds have an interest in playing video games. The general public does not give a **** that a game runs in 1080p or has "megatextures" or horse**** like that.

Example A: I dated a girl a few months ago (something you ought to try sometime), and she had a Wii at her apartment. She asked me if I wanted to play a game and I said sure, so she popped in "Michael Jackson Dance Moves." From a technical standpoint, it was a very badly designed game with low production values, but you know what? It was a lot of fun because I was interacting with A GIRL as opposed to beating off to porn like most ElIT3 pC G4M4R$$$ do.

That is the value of systems like the Wii and the WiiU. They provide an option to people who don't want to sit in front of a display monitor for eight hours hardcore and play the latest "God of War" title.
this. while i might have said it a little calmer - you are 100% correct
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after revealing Wii U nintendo stock fell 10+%
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Stocks have been in a downward trend for 6 weeks. Sony is down 2%
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Old 06-10-11, 06:48 PM   #82
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I use to think that but after playing Mario Kart and Zelda for the 10th time with only minor changes to their gameplay I cannot see the value anymore. After seeing the Skyward Sword gameplay I am just so not interested in it. Its basically Wind Waker with flight, I mean they even mentioned that you will have to return the the main island multiple times throughout the story... ugh.
IIRC you were spanking it to every MGS release, gameplay has been cloned since the first one on PSX. FF games have been about the same since 7 onwards, you still seem to like those. I remember you saying "zomg god of war 3 looks better than anything on 360, it looks better than gears of war 3, its the best game every made and its so new and fresh!!!11" even though nothing has changed since the first, hell it could be one long game. I could go on, but your bias is there for Nintendo's first party games, which admitted by all(except you) are some of the best games ever made, every time, but not for any of Sonys games, that are essentially the same thing.

Just sayin'.
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Old 06-10-11, 06:53 PM   #83
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I have waited for 1:1 sword:controller controls for a very very long time. I don't particularly like the art direction of Skyward Sword, but from what I have been hearing at E3 the controls are extremely tight and the game sounds bad ass.
Problem is that the game doesn't really use it well... im sure just waggling the remote will get you through it. Good use of 1:1 movement for me is Sorcery on the PS3 but it sadly it looks like it was a no show this year... hope it wasn't cancelled.
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IIRC you were spanking it to every MGS release, gameplay has been cloned since the first one on PSX. FF games have been about the same since 7 onwards, you still seem to like those. I remember you saying "zomg god of war 3 looks better than anything on 360, it looks better than gears of war 3, its the best game every made and its so new and fresh!!!11" even though nothing has changed since the first, hell it could be one long game. I could go on, but your bias is there for Nintendo's first party games, which admitted by all(except you) are some of the best games ever made, every time, but not for any of Sonys games, that are essentially the same thing.

Just sayin'.
You clearly never played MGS3 and MGS4 since the gameplay in those two were drastically different from the first 2. Hell MGS3 was a huge departure from any of them with the survival element in the mix.

No the FF series has changed... while the basic premise is usually the same (save the world from a great threat) they have changed the battle systems and gameplay enough to make them feel different. I don't know how you can compare Final Fantasy to Zelda... Zelda uses the same weapons in every release and even has the same temples, just different layouts. Final Fantasy changes completely... Hell FFXIII sold poorly because people didn't like the changes.
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