Go Back   nV News Forums > Hardware Forums > Rumor Mill

Newegg Daily Deals

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-24-11, 07:06 AM   #1
Rollo
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,719
Default Sigh- Bulldozer fail prediction from AMD staff

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news....aspx?pageid=0

If this is true, it may well be the end of AMD. ATi revenues are insufficient to support their parent company, and how long can they carry on without significant mind or market share?

This is very sad news indeed, I hoped Bulldozer would make them competitive again. I ran AMD for years, even before they were best, just to support competition.

It gets to the point where you become your systems worst enemy with them though:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...0_7.html#sect0

With a 2500 at ~$200, how can a gamer justify any AMD purchase at this point? I purchased two cpus this year- a 990X and a 2500K to replace my i7 860 and Phenom II 965.

AMD had nothing to offer me at the high or low end, and it looks like that will continue for the foreseeable future.
__________________
Rig1:
intel 990X + 2 X EVGA 3GB GTX580 + 3 X Acer GD235Hz
3D Vision Surround

Rig 2:
intel 2500K + NVIDIA GTX590 + Dell 3007 WFPHC

[SIZE="1"]NVIDIA Focus Group Member
[B]NVIDIA Focus Group Members receive free software and/or hardware from NVIDIA from time to time to facilitate the evaluation of NVIDIA products. However, the opinions expressed are solely those of the Members.[/B][/SIZE]
Rollo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-11, 07:21 AM   #2
Bman212121
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,726
Default Re: Sigh- Bulldozer fail prediction from AMD staff

Heh... I think BSON took it out of context. Bulldozer might not have performed as well in BAPCo because the benchmark is not weighted correctly. Who cares if you can get 1 trillion points in one benchmark if the benchmark is not relative to anything you would actually do with your pc. Nvidia also said they didn't want anything to do with BAPCo, so it's obviously because their nextgen part must not be any good.... /sarcasm
Bman212121 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-11, 08:34 AM   #3
grey_1
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Sigh- Bulldozer fail prediction from AMD staff

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bman212121 View Post
Heh... I think BSON took it out of context. Bulldozer might not have performed as well in BAPCo because the benchmark is not weighted correctly. Who cares if you can get 1 trillion points in one benchmark if the benchmark is not relative to anything you would actually do with your pc. Nvidia also said they didn't want anything to do with BAPCo, so it's obviously because their nextgen part must not be any good.... /sarcasm
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/d...ing_BAPCo.html
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-11, 08:53 AM   #4
K007
 
K007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Australia, Sydney
Posts: 9,406
Default Re: Sigh- Bulldozer fail prediction from AMD staff

lol @ this thread
K007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-11, 08:59 AM   #5
ViN86
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 15,486
Default Re: Sigh- Bulldozer fail prediction from AMD staff

Quote:
Originally Posted by K007 View Post
lol @ this thread
+1

AMD isn't going to die even if Bulldozer doesn't beat Sandy Bridge or Sandy Brdige E. AMD will price the chips accordingly and still make money.

Plus they own this little thing called ATI, which is producing $350 HD6970's which are insanely fast in GPGPU computing, hold their own nicely against the $500 GTX 580, and scale very nicely in Crossfire.

Don't forget Llanos which just dropped too, which has great potential for the mobile and mainstream desktop user.
ViN86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-11, 10:33 AM   #6
Dazz
"TOON ARMY!"
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Newcastle, United Kingdom
Posts: 5,138
Send a message via AIM to Dazz
Default Re: Sigh- Bulldozer fail prediction from AMD staff

AMD beats in price, you said low end AMD can't compete? A Core i5 2500K is mid to upper end of the scale not low end. I bought a AMD X6 1090T, 880G and 4GB PC12800 for £205 was looking at a Core i5 2500K + P67 + 4GB PC12800 costs £322 thats a pretty big diffrence in price right there. You know what, i won't get 150fps and may have to limp at 80fps in games

I don't really care anyway i play at 1080p rez a decent video card is more important.

I was going to get bulldozer and this was to tie me over but considering every game i have played is smooth i don't see the need in a faster CPU.
__________________
"Never interupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

Processor: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition @ 4.25GHz
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3
Graphics: ASUS ENGTX470
Memory: 4GB Kingston HyperX Blu PC12800 DDR3
Monitor: LG E2260V-PN Full HD WLED 22" & DELL 20" 2005FPW,
Power: Coolermaster Silent Pro Modular 850w PSU
Sound: Logitech Z5500 Digital.
Cooling: Thermalright Silver Arrow.
1st Storage: Kingston V100 SSDNow128GB SSD
2nd Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F1 750GB
Dazz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-11, 12:51 PM   #7
Rollo
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,719
Default Re: Sigh- Bulldozer fail prediction from AMD staff

Quote:
Originally Posted by ViN86 View Post
+1

AMD isn't going to die even if Bulldozer doesn't beat Sandy Bridge or Sandy Brdige E. AMD will price the chips accordingly and still make money.

Plus they own this little thing called ATI, which is producing $350 HD6970's which are insanely fast in GPGPU computing, hold their own nicely against the $500 GTX 580, and scale very nicely in Crossfire.

Don't forget Llanos which just dropped too, which has great potential for the mobile and mainstream desktop user.
Wanna pass that spleef of AMD wish weed this way?

Quote:
"Bulldozer is going to disappoint people because we did not get the resources to build a great CPU, and it's not that we needed billions of dollars to make it a leader. We needed investment in people, tools and technology."
As every competitive spirit, one of our sources went on to confirm the quote above and expressed concern that "Bulldozer’s client performance is not going to be enough to deliver growth in the enterprise and in my view, that is the biggest driver behind our current strategy."
I barely even noticed the BAPCO stuff in the article, what concerned me is the other things that were said. Synthetic benches have never been high on my list of benchmarks, I usually don't even read them.

Also, I want AMD to succeed. Period. I've been a fan of AMD, and customer, since I purchased my AMD 486 DX4-120MHz. If Bulldozer is good enough it doesn't reduce SLi scaling, I'll probably try them again at some point.

I just don't think AMD can take another failed desktop launch, time will tell.

P.S. As far as ATi goes, you do know they're a much smaller company and their profits aren't enough to keep their owner afloat, right? ATi is doing well now, but I don't see that as enough for AMD. I hope I'm wrong.
__________________
Rig1:
intel 990X + 2 X EVGA 3GB GTX580 + 3 X Acer GD235Hz
3D Vision Surround

Rig 2:
intel 2500K + NVIDIA GTX590 + Dell 3007 WFPHC

[SIZE="1"]NVIDIA Focus Group Member
[B]NVIDIA Focus Group Members receive free software and/or hardware from NVIDIA from time to time to facilitate the evaluation of NVIDIA products. However, the opinions expressed are solely those of the Members.[/B][/SIZE]
Rollo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-11, 01:05 PM   #8
nekrosoft13
I'm Geralt
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Chicagoland, once a year in Poland
Posts: 24,366
Default Re: Sigh- Bulldozer fail prediction from AMD staff

After the marketing campaign and was pushing, bulldozer is rather a disapoitment.
nekrosoft13 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 06-24-11, 03:36 PM   #9
Ninja Prime
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Utah
Posts: 2,263
Default Re: Sigh- Bulldozer fail prediction from AMD staff

Quote:
Originally Posted by nekrosoft13 View Post
After the marketing campaign and was pushing, bulldozer is rather a disapoitment.
Umm what? Its not even out? Theres no benchmarks? You don't know anything? How do you get that its a disappointment?
Ninja Prime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-11, 03:43 PM   #10
Roadhog
Resident Alien
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,776
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja Prime View Post
Umm what? Its not even out? Theres no benchmarks? You don't know anything? How do you get that its a disappointment?
fanboys, that's how.
Roadhog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-11, 06:30 PM   #11
Roliath
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Sigh- Bulldozer fail prediction from AMD staff

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo View Post
Wanna pass that spleef of AMD wish weed this way?
lol
spleef?

seriously
What you are trying to say is "Spliff"
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-11, 08:26 PM   #12
Rollo
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,719
Default Re: Sigh- Bulldozer fail prediction from AMD staff

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roliath View Post
lol
spleef?

seriously
What you are trying to say is "Spliff"
Darn, I'm not up on doper jargon. Won't I be embarassed when I'm hanging out with all the other middle aged professionals and one whips out a baggie, rolls up a doobie, and asks me what my favorite phish song is?
__________________
Rig1:
intel 990X + 2 X EVGA 3GB GTX580 + 3 X Acer GD235Hz
3D Vision Surround

Rig 2:
intel 2500K + NVIDIA GTX590 + Dell 3007 WFPHC

[SIZE="1"]NVIDIA Focus Group Member
[B]NVIDIA Focus Group Members receive free software and/or hardware from NVIDIA from time to time to facilitate the evaluation of NVIDIA products. However, the opinions expressed are solely those of the Members.[/B][/SIZE]
Rollo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1998 - 2014, nV News.