Official Radeon 7970 Review and discussion thread

[shadow001]

Originally Posted by K007

wow, impressive xfire numbers

Yup, 2 HD7970's in 2 way crossfire just barely behind a pair of GTX590's in quad SLI, so it's 2 GPU's versus 4, which even if they are lower clocked than the Fermi's in GTX580 cards, shouldn't even be close to begin with...

One can imagine the ass kicking a pair of dual GPU HD7990's in quad crossfire are going to do, or alternatively 4 seperate HD7970's.....Yikes.

[Muppet]

Originally Posted by shadow001

One can imagine the ass kicking a pair of dual GPU HD7990's in quad crossfire are going to do, or alternatively 4 separate HD7970's.....Yikes.

For benching yes, but for games absolutely not. Pretty much all games I have seen don't run any better in a Quad GPU setup. I would say they perform worse in a lot of cases. 2 single GPU's is a better way to go in Crossfire or SLI IMO. Anything over and above 2 GPU's the returns in gaming are less and less the more you add. Plus the expense, is not justifiable.

[shadow001]

Originally Posted by Muppet

For benching yes, but for games absolutely not. Pretty much all games I have seen don't run any better in a Quad GPU setup. I would say they perform worse in a lot of cases. 2 single GPU's is a better way to go in Crossfire or SLI IMO. Anything over and above 2 GPU's the returns in gaming are less and less the more you add. Plus the expense, is not justifiable.

I know that fully as a former owner of a pair of HD4870 X2's and a pair of HD5970's.... They can be very finicky and sometimes the second dual GPU card actually slows down performance( negative scaling), never mind not having a positive boost, however minor it might be.


However, my triple GTX580 setup has treated me good on both benchmarks and real world gaming performance, but it's not say that i'm not tempted by 3 HD7970's in triple crossfire, as it would be a lie.....I just won't touch quad setups from either company basically as they're too finicky.


In any case, i got the new displays coming in this tuesday, wich allows up to 7680*1440 or portrait mode at 4320*2560 pixels in triple screen, so my current video cards as well as any future GPU upgrades, are going to hate my guts plenty to give them that much of a workload with AA on top, and in game options cranked as high as long as the cards can maintain an average of 60 FPS....Let's see just how much punishment these GTX 580's can really take...

[Muppet]

I think 3 7970's would be pretty awesome and will be the fastest gaming around when they launch. That would certainly play everything in a tri monitor setup. I can't wait to see some Metro 2033 running on 3 monitors at max settings.

[Rollo]

Originally Posted by shadow001

Actually if you read the whole article at hard OCP, you'd see that a single HD7970 actually does the holy grail of 5760*1080 at playable frame rates in a fair amount of games, while the GTX 580 was playing at the lower settings You see in those graphs, and the reason for those graphs are to compare all 3 cards at the same settings, and nothing else.


Basically, it's not because a single HD7970 can't do better in 3 monitor mode...

Astonishing! A 7970 is faster than a year old 580?!?! I just read that whole review,stand by what I said. In all games except Skyrim, settings are turned off and framerates are low. Woot! Rockin' the 35fps averages with minimums in the 20s!!

[Ninja Prime]

Originally Posted by Rollo

Astonishing! A 7970 is faster than a year old 580?!?! I just read that whole review,stand by what I said. In all games except Skyrim, settings are turned off and framerates are low. Woot! Rockin' the 35fps averages with minimums in the 20s!!

Still butthurt that AMDs on top ehh? Its ok bro, you can cry on my shoulder.

[Rollo]

Originally Posted by Ninja Prime

Still butthurt that AMDs on top ehh? Its ok bro, you can cry on my shoulder.

Who would have ever thought that in 2012 ATi would be able to make a card that is 25% faster than the best card of 2010? Have we EVER seen advances like that in such a short time?! Between this quantum leap forward and the Beefdozer, do we really need to wait for them to tell us what Project Win is? I think we're watching it unfold.

[Roadhog]

Originally Posted by Rollo

Who would have ever thought that in 2012 ATi would be able to make a card that is 25% faster than the best card of 2010? Have we EVER seen advances like that in such a short time?! Between this quantum leap forward and the Beefdozer, do we really need to wait for them to tell us what Project Win is? I think we're watching it unfold.

Did you forget about the 480?



Oh look, year later, but only 7% faster.

Then we have a 580 coming in at 24% faster... How long after the 5870 was that? 2 years?

[shadow001]

Boom Head shot....

[Rollo]

Poor Roadhog. Only posts misinformation,can't build up any credibility. ATI soft launched the 5870 late Sept. 2009, then it was a phantom edition card for the rest of the year. NVidia launched The Gtx480 in March2010, and the 580 in November 2010, 6 & 14 months later respectively. (two years? did you start following this stuff last week?) Of course your lies and errors miss the point that the 480 is the same generation part as the 5870, not the 580 which was a refresh part competing with 6970. Nvidia had the faster part both generations. They will this time as well, people should really think twice about buying a short term leader like the 7970. I'd be pretty pissed off if I spent big bucks on a 7970 and Nvidia flattens it in a couple months...

[shadow001]

Originally Posted by Rollo

Poor Roadhog. Only posts misinformation,can't build up any credibility. ATI soft launched the 5870 late Sept. 2009, then it was a phantom edition card for the rest of the year. NVidia launched The Gtx480 in March2010, and the 580 in November 2010, 6 & 14 months later respectively. (two years? did you start following this stuff last week?) Of course your lies and errors miss the point that the 480 is the same generation part as the 5870, not the 580 which was a refresh part competing with 6970. Nvidia had the faster part both generations. They will this time as well, people should really think twice about buying a short term leader like the 7970. I'd be pretty pissed off if I spent big bucks on a 7970 and Nvidia flattens it in a couple months...

LOL...GTX480 launched in may in any sort of quantities, so it was more like 8 months behind, so the last thing you should use is the phantom edition argument, period.


And as far as Kepler is concerned, read this and if it's true, it might be slightly longer than a "couple of months"...Cross your fingers that it isn't.

http://semiaccurate.com/2011/12/30/n...ps-a-year-too/


The official charts from their own conventions tells it all.... Fermi in 2009 and Kepler in 2011...Can you smell the B.S. yet?

[Roadhog]

Originally Posted by Rollo

Poor Roadhog. Only posts misinformation,can't build up any credibility. ATI soft launched the 5870 late Sept. 2009, then it was a phantom edition card for the rest of the year. NVidia launched The Gtx480 in March2010, and the 580 in November 2010, 6 & 14 months later respectively. (two years? did you start following this stuff last week?) Of course your lies and errors miss the point that the 480 is the same generation part as the 5870, not the 580 which was a refresh part competing with 6970. Nvidia had the faster part both generations. They will this time as well, people should really think twice about buying a short term leader like the 7970. I'd be pretty pissed off if I spent big bucks on a 7970 and Nvidia flattens it in a couple months...

Two years was a guess, hence the question mark. I didn't feel like adding up the months. I also like how you say the 5870 is launched in late September, but the 480 is just launched in March, yet it was even later into the month. derp. lol. How was it a phantom launch if I ended up buying two of them just a few days after they launched? Odd...

5870 Launched Sept 22nd 2009.
480 Launched March 26th 2010.

6 months later, to only be 7% faster.

14 months later, for the 580 to only be 24% faster than a 5870...

Then the 580 launched Nov 9th 2010, 8 months after the 480. Also, the 6970 launched after the 580(Dec 15th), so at the time of launch the 580 was competing with the 480 and 5870. I never said the 580 was the same generation part as the 5870, though you could say it was since it was just a fixed 480.

If nvidia keeps up the small gains each release, then the 7970 will still be the faster card.

I also don't see why you feel the need to argue these pointless things and bash ATI every chance you get. I want to see nvidia release a fast card as much as you do. There really isn't a point for you to be posting in this thread at all as you haven't added anything worth while to it.