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Old 01-02-12, 09:32 AM   #13
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120GB Force 3 is still worth considering if they drop the price a tad.
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Old 01-02-12, 09:36 AM   #14
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Here's a review from Hexus http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/storag...-series-3-ssd/

They recommend the 128GB Crucial m4 over this drive.

Personally im gonna go with a 120gb OCZ Vertex 3 for around £150
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Old 01-02-12, 10:19 AM   #15
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SSD Failure Rates

Intel 0.59%

Corsair 2.17%

Crucial 2.25%

Kingston 2.39%

OCZ 2.93%
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Old 01-02-12, 10:24 AM   #16
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Here's a review from Hexus http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/storag...-series-3-ssd/

They recommend the 128GB Crucial m4 over this drive for the users working largely with incompressible data - such as photos, music and video
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From numbers quoted from France in 02/12/2010, Is that the 12th of feb or 2nd of dec?

I guess slow and steady wins the race though eh
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I'm leaning toward an Intel 320 120GB for now, until I upgrade my MBD later in the year, at which point I'll probably buy an Intel 520, which should be out by then, and move the 320 to either my laptop or my techbench PC. I think that will be the most efficient way to spend my money. That way I'll end up with an SSD for two systems, including a top of the line model.

I do want to stick with Intel though, not only because of the reliability factor, but also because they make their own firmware, which seems to give them an edge nobody else has.
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So even thought it will actually give me faster read/write speeds you guys still don't recommend me buying a controller card?

By the time i upgrade my cpu/mobo again there could be SATA 4/5 out.
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Ive been looking into the controller card option alittle more, Turns out if i purchase a SATA3 controller card, I have to make sure it is at least PCIe x4 to maximize the speed of my drive.

For example, Avoid cards based on the Marvell 9128, Which is PCIe x1 and limits bandwidth to 500mb/s.

I will probably buy a Corsair 120GB Force 3 SSD then when funds permit in a couple of weeks purchase a controller card, Something like this > StarTech.com 2 Port eSATA + 4 Port SATA PCI Express x4 SATA Controller Adapter Card

Ill do some before and after controller card ATTO benchies, If the results suck ill just return the controller card.
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Given how cheap SSDs are now and that there are no real alternatives to SATA 3 drives anymore, you can still get a SATA 3 drive and use it on a SATA 2 controller. It's still be best upgrade you can ever buy for your PC.

I'd get an Intel 510. Reliability counts, not the performance. Because in a real world scenario at home, you won't notice the slightly slower performance.

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Good plan if you can return the controller.

But I doubt it's good enough. Maybe for a single drive but if you'd use all ports, it would cave under the pressure.
Like I said, good controllers are more expensive than good SSDs (within the usual home user capacities of course).
Well i do only plan on using the one SSD on the controller tbh.
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Old 01-03-12, 01:47 PM   #22
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Here's a thought- how noticable is the difference between SATA II at it's peak, and SATA III? In other words, in day to day usage will you really see a difference between that drive on a SATA II port compared to that same drive on a SATA III port?

I honestly don't know, hence why I'm asking. But I'm using a first generation 30GB SSD on SATA II right now and as is I'm not sure I could notice anything more, or at least anything significant, with a faster SSD. You may not need that controller and may be fine with your on-board SATA controller.

Think of it this way- that SSD will be able to keep up, and help improve the experience, when you do finally upgrade to a new motherboard and processor.

Over the course of this year I am going to start replacing some of my smaller hard drives with SSDs, and I'll be using the on-board controller. It will be an upgrade for me as they aren't going to be first generation SSDs- they'll likely peg the SATA bandwidth. Going off of your sig you don't even have an SSD- even running that Corsair off of your integrated SATA controller will be a significantly noticeable upgrade in performance.

Just some food for thought.
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slawter's right. I had a lsi 9260-4i (which is a sas and sata 3.0 card)on a amd board and I was getting 1.5gb/sec read and about 8-900mb write with 4 vertex 3's in raid 0. Also, the bigger name controllers allow you to make bigger stripe sizes than a motherboard can. MB's max at usually 128kb stripes, my card allowed up to 1mb stripes. I could use only up to 512kb stripes as windows 7 for some reason didn't like it. Also, the big name cards have firmware upgrades. I am guessing the cheap one there is probably a 4x pci-e. The lsi I had was 8x pci-e 2.0 and some can go as high as 16x pci-e 2.0. The only reason I don't use it now is that my gigabyte x79 board up until now won't post with the raid card in. But there has been a firmware upgrade to my mb that has "improved raid card compatibility". The only problem now is that I only have 1 ssd and I have to get my raid card back from someone who doesn't now raid worth a crap.
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Well judging what ive been reading from you lot(appreciate the input)i was actually quite tempted to just say forget the lot and just go for a SATA II drive, As i said earlier my system shows no signs of struggling so i don't see me upgrading anytime soon and i don't see the point in the extra speed of a SATA III drive going to waist on a SATA II motherboard.

After looking into the SATA II drives it turns out by the time a purchased a decent branded one(Intel 120GB 320@£140+)it would actually be cheaper to buy the SATA III Corsair 120GB Force 3 for £125.

So with that in mine, With my current setup and the fact that i may not even upgrade my Motherboard/CPU for maybe another year(i stress "maybe" lol)Would you lot go for the SATA II Intel 120GB 320 or the cheaper SATA III Corsair 120GB Force 3(and no controller card)?
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