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Old 09-04-03, 03:23 AM   #1
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Default X spinning in infinite loop, no response SIGHUP SIGTERM

Running Mandrake 9.1 with all updates, custom kernel 2.4.22-pre10-ac1+rmap+preempt
edit: nVidia driver 4496

has happened in just about every kernel including distro kernel that came with MDK 9.0

sometimes while in GUI mode, it will just freeze. mouse still moves, i can login remotely, X is taking 95-99% CPU, just spinning.
also happens when switching from text mode to GUI.
system is largely unrecoverable b/c X when given SIGKILL does not restore video mode.

motherboard is ASuS A7v266-E, happened also with ABIT motherboard with VIA KT333 chipset, coupled with an old Pine TNT2 M64.
May be related to temperature, but unconfirmed... it sometimes seems to happen at any time regardless of system temperature, tho does seem to be possibly coupled with thermal issues. Will provide further info upon request, prefer email correspondence mailto:tabris@tabris.net

lspci -v output
> [tabris@tabriel tabris]$ sudo lspci -v
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333]
> Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc. A7V266-E Mainboard
> Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
> Memory at f8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
> Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 2.0
> Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2
>
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP] (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
> Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 0
> Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
> Memory behind bridge: ee000000-efdfffff
> Prefetchable memory behind bridge: eff00000-f7ffffff
> Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2
>
> 00:06.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. 20265 (rev 02)
> Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 8042
> Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 4
> I/O ports at d800 [size=8]
> I/O ports at d400 [size=4]
> I/O ports at d000 [size=8]
> I/O ports at b800 [size=4]
> I/O ports at b400 [size=64]
> Memory at ed800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K]
> Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=64K]
> Capabilities: [58] Power Management version 1
>
> 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Macronix, Inc. [MXIC] MX98713
> Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
> I/O ports at b000 [size=256]
> Memory at ed000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
> Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=64K]
>
> 00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)
> Subsystem: Creative Labs CT4832 SBLive! Value
> Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
> I/O ports at a800 [size=32]
> Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
>
> 00:0e.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 07)
> Subsystem: Creative Labs Gameport Joystick
> Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32
> I/O ports at a400 [disabled] [size=8]
> Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
>
> 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge
> Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc. VT8233A
> Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 0
> Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2
>
> 00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586/B/686A/B PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
> Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc. VT8233A Bus Master ATA100/66/33 IDE
> Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
> I/O ports at a000 [size=16]
> Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2
>
> 00:11.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1b) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
> Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID) USB Controller
> Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 4
> I/O ports at 9800 [size=32]
> Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2
>
> 00:11.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1b) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
> Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID) USB Controller
> Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 4
> I/O ports at 9400 [size=32]
> Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2
>
> 00:11.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1b) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
> Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID) USB Controller
> Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 4
> I/O ports at 9000 [size=32]
> Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2
>
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
> Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 11
> Memory at ee000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
> Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
> Expansion ROM at efff0000 [disabled] [size=64K]
> Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
> Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0
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Old 09-04-03, 03:03 PM   #2
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This has been a continual problem with Nvidia Linux drivers. My system is SuSE 8.0. The lockup is not frequent, but appears above all when two displays are running - using Ctl F7 and Ctl F8 to switch from one to another.

The symptoms I suffer are the same as described in the initial message.

My uninformed guess is that it is a race condition in the Nvidia kernel driver. I had hoped that the problem would have been identified and cleared befor now. It has certainly been active since version 32xx
when I first stated using the Geforce 400 card.

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Old 09-04-03, 09:25 PM   #3
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Default Same problem here

This driver is unusable. I get X frozen every 5 minutes on average if there is some other I/O at the same time. And that's without doing any OpenGL stuff.
I thought that nvidia were more serious about their driver. I moved from an ATI card fo Geforce 4 and back to my old ATI. I guess I'll keep bying ATI.
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Old 10-01-03, 09:54 AM   #4
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Just wanted to chime in here that I have been having nothing but lockup troubles and nightmares myself.
system:
abit kt7a
fx 5600 ultra

i can log in, but the lockups occur if i try to open any windows and actually do anything. mouse works, i can ssh into the box, but nothing from the main machine. just a total lockup, and no way to recover.

i had been using the 43xx drivers with a gf2pro, but neither of the drivers work with my 5600ultra.

any help here?
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Old 10-01-03, 05:14 PM   #5
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I have identical symptoms to tabrisnet.

After 2 years trouble free use of nVidia drivers with this PC I started getting the X freeze when I recently, and at about the same time, I updated my LM9.0 kernel to 2.4.19-35 from 2.4.19-32, increased RAM from 256MB to 768MB, and moved to nVidia driver 4496.
I typically run at least few days between freezes - making testing possible solutions very time consuming.

I've found I can get out of a freeze by using
Alt-PrintScreen-k (see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sysrq.txt)
This restarts XF and leaves everything working fine, just so long as I don't then switch virtual terminals.

Going back older nVidia drivers doesn't help.

I get the problem with either NVagp (which does support my AMD 761) or AGPGART (which doesn't but works fine with agp_try_unsupported=1).

Turning off AGP support may have stopped it - I didn't wait long enough to be sure.

I've tried all the possible solutions I can find in this forum and in the news groups.

I'm currently running with boot option mem=440M, and its looking like it might have stopped the freeze - uptime of over a week without problem. I won't be sure for a couple more weeks, then I'll have to find how to get my memory back!

I'm curious if others with this freeze have "large" amount of RAM and if reducing it stops the problem for them too.
Does this help anyone to see where the bug or my configuration mistake lies?


ABIT KG7-Lite, newest BIOS (DM)
ABIT Siluro GF2 MX400
768MB RAM
LM9.0 2.4.19-35 with all updates
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Old 10-05-03, 11:30 AM   #6
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Since I posted my comments, I made an adjustment to my box's configuration, and I have had no more lockups.

KDE (and perhaps Gnome) writes a whole lot of files in the /tmp directory. Usually they are left alone. I have reconfigured my system (SuSE 8.0) to clear out all files in /tmp and /var/tmp on each boot. I switch off at night and reboot in the morning.

I am well aware of the philosophical trap of 'post hoc ergo propter hoc'. What I did may or may not be relevant. At least it can do no harm.
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Old 10-05-03, 04:36 PM   #7
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I'm curious if others with this freeze have "large" amount of RAM and if reducing it stops the problem for them too.
I have only 256Mb DDR pc3200 but running at 266Mhz and I have the same problems as the others, X locks but the mouse. The nVidia drivers are absolutely crap.

Don't tell me it's a tuning issue, in my good old Voodoo4 I hadn't had to touch anything to make it work.
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