Halo PC is gonna be pushing PS 2.0

Syan · 09-10-03, 05:20 PM

Just read this interview at Avault: http://www.avault.com/articles/getar...sp?name=halopc

Here's the bit:

What graphics hardware features does Halo support?

You'll want the latest fully DirectX 9 compliant video card if you want the "better than Xbox" look. This will give you blazing speed and pixel shader 2.0 support along with tons of other cool features. Halo can render everything with lots of passes or heavy use of pixel shaders. We also support a couple different generations of DirectX 8 cards and most DirectX 7 cards. DirectX 7 cards will look the most distant from the Xbox version because all of the content was authored with pixel shaders in mind. It's no longer just nice looking texture mapped polygons. It's way beyond that now.

Syan · 09-10-03, 05:20 PM

Can't wait to pit the 5900 and 9800 up against eachother for this game soon!

ragejg · 09-10-03, 05:35 PM

I wonder if the shader detection thing is gonna be transparent or if it's gonna feature a menu option... hmmm... so, a GF2ti/GF4Mx may be able to run this game @ reasonable framerates... cool... but I wonder if FX5200 owners will be able to turn the PS off to remain playable... I should hope so, cuz otherwise you'd have:

Guy A: "I have a GF4MX and it runs pretty smooth..."
Guy B: "I have a 5200 and it runs like Cr@p!"

Dazz · 09-10-03, 06:15 PM

The game is being set to be able to run on a Geforce 2 GTS. Like it was when it was in development years ago

Ninja Prime · 09-11-03, 09:26 PM

I don't know what this is about, but I have the beta of PC Halo, and not only does it have a crapload of rendering bugs(its beta, but still), it runs like crap on my high end comp, and it looks like a PC game from 99'.

Zenikase · 09-11-03, 09:46 PM

Considering the fact that Halo was mostly designed as a DX8 game (for the Xbox), I don't think Gearbox can do much aside from reducing the number of passes.

Edge · 09-11-03, 11:47 PM

Actually, Gearbox said they rewrote ALL of the Pixel Shader code. They said something about it not being transferable between Xbox and PC because it wasn't compatable with all video cards or something like that. So basicly, we'll see a lot of new DX9 effects with the game, and many things will look different (and hopefully better) then the Xbox version.

I'm also interested in the performence difference for the 5900/9800. It could be another HL2 with the 5900 getting half the FPS as the 9800, or the DX9 effects might be light enough that the 5900 will be able to put up a good fight. We'll just have to see how many of their effects are DX8 and how many are DX9. This could be a key point in the FX series' pixel shader performence.

Ninja Prime · 09-12-03, 12:24 AM

Sounds about right about the shader stuff. Still, it appears to me that they used the exact same geometry and textures from the X-box version, so if all they are doing is adding PS effects, it's still gonna look like crap. It looks soooo horrible on a PC monitor, and any action makes it hit 2-3 fps. Plsu the animations for peoples mouths seems really off, looks worse than the original HL characters.

Nebuchadnezzar · 09-12-03, 05:11 AM

Sorry if mentioned in a nother thread, but for ATI cards, you just force PS to 1.3/1.4 with RageTweaker. Looks better and performs WAY better.

09-12-03, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nebuchadnezzar
Sorry if mentioned in a nother thread, but for ATI cards, you just force PS to 1.3/1.4 with RageTweaker. Looks better and performs WAY better.

It looks better when using DX8 instead of DX9

ReDeeMeR · 09-12-03, 11:53 PM

Well it looks ****ty and runs ****ty to, something new.

WarheadMM · 09-13-03, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by StealthHawk
It looks better when using DX8 instead of DX9

Why cant you use every DX9 option and one DX8 option?? is that agaisnt the rules or something??

09-10-03, 05:20 PM	#1
Syan Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 60	Halo PC is gonna be pushing PS 2.0 Just read this interview at Avault: http://www.avault.com/articles/getar...sp?name=halopc Here's the bit: What graphics hardware features does Halo support? You'll want the latest fully DirectX 9 compliant video card if you want the "better than Xbox" look. This will give you blazing speed and pixel shader 2.0 support along with tons of other cool features. Halo can render everything with lots of passes or heavy use of pixel shaders. We also support a couple different generations of DirectX 8 cards and most DirectX 7 cards. DirectX 7 cards will look the most distant from the Xbox version because all of the content was authored with pixel shaders in mind. It's no longer just nice looking texture mapped polygons. It's way beyond that now. __________________ P4 3.2 (800mhz fsb) Nvidia GeForce 6800 GT SB Audigy 2 1GB DDR 400 RAM

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09-10-03, 05:35 PM	#3
ragejg nV News Alumni Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Finger Lakes of Hell, NY Posts: 5,399	... I wonder if the shader detection thing is gonna be transparent or if it's gonna feature a menu option... hmmm... so, a GF2ti/GF4Mx may be able to run this game @ reasonable framerates... cool... but I wonder if FX5200 owners will be able to turn the PS off to remain playable... I should hope so, cuz otherwise you'd have: Guy A: "I have a GF4MX and it runs pretty smooth..." Guy B: "I have a 5200 and it runs like Cr@p!" __________________ 2010-2011 Reviews: GTX 570 \| GTX 580 \| GTS 450 \| GTX 460 \| GTX 465 Pre-2010 Reviews: 6600 GT \| XMS 4400 DDR \| SilenX Cooler \| 6800 \| 5900 XT \| Personal Cinema \| 5900 NU ______________________________________________ Phenom II x6 1090t @ 4.0 ghz \| Asus M498TD-EVO Am3 SLI nForce 980a \| 2x EVGA GTX 560 SLI \| 2x4gb DDR3-1333 \| Antec EarthWatts EA650 PSU \| 60gb Mushkin Calisto Enhanced Sandforce SSD \| 2x WD2500KS RAID 0 \| Sunbeam Tuniq 3 case \| 24" Asus 19x10 LED LCD \| 26" Panasonic 720p TV \| Sidewinder X5 mouse \| Logitech MX5500 & Revolution mouse \| Altec Lansing 5.1 THX-Certified audio \| Win 7 Ultimate \| desk \| couch "Stars must die so that I may live. I... stepped out of a Supernova."

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09-12-03, 05:11 AM	#9
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09-11-03, 09:26 PM	#5
Ninja Prime Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Utah Posts: 2,263	I don't know what this is about, but I have the beta of PC Halo, and not only does it have a crapload of rendering bugs(its beta, but still), it runs like crap on my high end comp, and it looks like a PC game from 99'.

09-11-03, 09:46 PM	#6
Zenikase Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 99	Considering the fact that Halo was mostly designed as a DX8 game (for the Xbox), I don't think Gearbox can do much aside from reducing the number of passes.

09-11-03, 11:47 PM	#7
Edge 3d animator for hire! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 3,564	Actually, Gearbox said they rewrote ALL of the Pixel Shader code. They said something about it not being transferable between Xbox and PC because it wasn't compatable with all video cards or something like that. So basicly, we'll see a lot of new DX9 effects with the game, and many things will look different (and hopefully better) then the Xbox version. I'm also interested in the performence difference for the 5900/9800. It could be another HL2 with the 5900 getting half the FPS as the 9800, or the DX9 effects might be light enough that the 5900 will be able to put up a good fight. We'll just have to see how many of their effects are DX8 and how many are DX9. This could be a key point in the FX series' pixel shader performence.

09-12-03, 12:24 AM	#8
Ninja Prime Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Utah Posts: 2,263	Sounds about right about the shader stuff. Still, it appears to me that they used the exact same geometry and textures from the X-box version, so if all they are doing is adding PS effects, it's still gonna look like crap. It looks soooo horrible on a PC monitor, and any action makes it hit 2-3 fps. Plsu the animations for peoples mouths seems really off, looks worse than the original HL characters.

09-12-03, 11:53 PM	#11
ReDeeMeR The Guy Next Door wink Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 605	Well it looks **ty and runs **ty to, something new. __________________ Profesional web graphics design(gaming and corporate).

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