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Old 09-11-03, 10:04 AM   #1
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Default Valve just put the nail in Futuremark's coffin

now the HL2 benchmark is almost out, will it replace 3dmark2003 ?

MS has said HL2 is the most complete DX9 benchmark available.

and 3dmark2003's history hardly inspires much faith in it.

atm, FM's Hall Of Fame is down ("The Hall of Fame 03 is being improved and updated. Please check back soon!") and has been for a while.

will FM throw out the "cheat" drivers so the Hall Of Fame more accurately represents "real-world" performance we've seen with HL2, Tomb Raider, in an attempt to reclaim some dignity?

even though the performance difference between nvidia and ATI in DX9 is real, will the idea of such large differences make people cringe and stick to 3dmark where it's a closer battle?
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Old 09-11-03, 10:17 AM   #2
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I think it proves 3dmark is just more accurate than everyone thought it was. IMHO that's a good thing for Futuremark.
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I think it proves 3dmark is just more accurate than everyone thought it was. IMHO that's a good thing for Futuremark.
Yeah, but they tanked their credibility and yesterday there was a debate over on B3D about how nVidia was claiming the 45.23 set were FM approved and FM said they were NOT FM approved...but buried in B3D's forum and not on their site.

How can you trust them for credibility when they pull stuff like that? And how come they're allowing nVidia drivers that put the 5900U at parity with the 9800P if HL2 benchmark shows the DX9 performance discrepancy?

I think FM is done, and good riddance.
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sigh... why nvidia is still fooling around with dx9 performance? its like they still dont have pissed customers enough
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sigh... why nvidia is still fooling around with dx9 performance? its like they still dont have pissed customers enough
I think there is a bet going on internally at nVidia on just how pissed they can get their customers. (You must admit it would explain a lot. )
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