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Old 09-27-03, 01:35 AM   #229
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in the det 50s, the objects in the backround are much blurrier, so they definatly sacraficed lod settings for performance
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looking closer, the tetxures on det 50s suck, they are way blurrier and less sharp
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they look alot worse, less fog, very dark. can u take an SS of the same view the other person used, with the sheild upgrade in view
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yeah they are much better comparison shots. i still see a little more blurriness or a little missing something from the 51.75 shots tho but they are very minimal.
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why dont you post some screenshots on icetomb with both IQ and speed comparable to 9800pro? because you cant. with fx5900u you can only get either sucky IQ/fast incomplete trilinear fps with 51.75 or ok IQ(still no full trilinear)/slooooww fps with 45.23 or previous drivers.
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I don't care about Nvidia's new ultra cheating, IQ killing, unreleased drivers. I give up.
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Old 09-27-03, 04:25 AM   #230
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Looking at page 4 or 5 of this thread the basis for the conclusion of IQ differences seem to stem from the lack of 51.75 rendering fog. Just my opinion.


Shouldn't it be easy enough to check if LOD has changed as well.
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Old 09-27-03, 11:13 PM   #231
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Fivefeet8, this thread was never about average FPS, it was about MIN FPS. I don't care if I average a playable 45FPS if there are spots on the map that drop me to 6 FPS! I consider than unplayable. And this is about playability at high quality settings. Some people would actually like to play UT2K3 instead of just benchmarking it. There are other places in Icetomb where that fog exists, NOT just in that chamber, and the fog does cause big dips. Why? Ask Nvidia, not me.
yeah, one of the most amazing things i noticed when i switched from fx5800 to 9800pro was that everything seem to be much smoother with 9800pro. when i run benchmark and play the game with fx5800, the fps is like suddenly jumping up and down all the times. but 9800pro runs thing much more steadily and never dips too low too suddenly. these sudden fps speed ups optimizations from fx are very fishy, because it is only good for the benchmark numbers - average fps numbers. its not smooth and it only makes high average fps numbers.
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Old 09-29-03, 03:53 PM   #232
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So, zero differences in the still shots for me.
Hehee, so I was right. Does that mean I'm unbiased?
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Old 10-08-03, 05:44 PM   #233
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Suprise!.. DM-Icetomb done with the leaked 52.13 detonators. The fog is back without any performance hit. Dm-rustatorium is still very fast.

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Suprise!.. DM-Icetomb done with the leaked 52.13 detonators. The fog is back without any performance hit. Dm-rustatorium is still very fast.

1024x768, 4xAA, 8xAF-quality: Resized to 800x600.
Ok, but doesn't 52.14 have even worse filtering quality than previous drivers?
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Old 10-08-03, 08:12 PM   #235
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Are we STILL talking about beta drivers and the microscopic examination of IQ.

Yet another forum with were all the ATI fanboys can slag off Nvidia.

Oh hold on a minute, it's a Nvidia forum, with ATI card users glowting about there Radeon cards.

Just listen to yourselfs
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put IQ aside. suprise? sounds like its a miracle or something for a top dollar video card to play games the way there meant to be played
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put IQ aside. suprise? sounds like its a miracle or something for a top dollar video card to play games the way there meant to be played
I dont have a problem but you seem to, your logo proves you have a problem with Nvidia.


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I dont have a problem but you seem to, your logo proves you have a problem with Nvidia.


yeah i had problems with fx5800 with ut2k3 with earlier drivers in those maps. maybe you didnt play them and/or chose to ignore the problems.
i also have problem with nvidia that they put static clip planes into 3DMark03 and all the benchmark specific, IQ lowering, dx9 faking optimizations. it seems you dont have any problem with all that.
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yeah i had problems with fx5800 with ut2k3 with earlier drivers in those maps. maybe you didnt play them and/or chose to ignore the problems.
i also have problem with nvidia that they put static clip planes into 3DMark03 and all the benchmark specific, IQ lowering, dx9 faking optimizations. it seems you dont have any problem with all that.
Lower IQ, sorry but that has been disproven and it turns out that FX IQ is better than the Radeon, even in AF. (see Aquamark IQ comparisons at tom's hardware )

As for the Icetomb problem, I used to play it on my GF4 Ti 4600 and it was fine, it's just a issue that will be fixed.

Get over it, it's not thats good map anyway.
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i was not referring to Aquamark IQ comparisons/tom's opinions, sorry.
i was talking about nvidia cheats. the most obvious and sick ones are static clip planes, have you ever heard of them?
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