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Old 09-13-03, 03:47 AM   #1
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Default X hungs on startup

Hi all

I still having a problem, even after doing everything I could find
on this forum:

mem=nopentium
acpi=off
Option "NvAGP" "0"

X hungs on load, the last line in XFree86.0.log is:
(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1024x768"

and then - nothing, with X taking 100% cpu

I need to ssh to the box and kill the X process
tried both 4363 and 4496 drivers
tried both RH9 stock kernel - 2.4.20-8 and 2.4.21

(kernel compiled with Nvidia AGPGART)

With X's "nv" driver everything works fine.....

My system is Athlon 2000, Epox 8RDA mobo with nforce2 chipset
GeForce3 ti200

Any suggestions?

My XF86Config Device section:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "nvidia"
BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 3 (generic)"
Option "NvAGP" "0"
EndSection
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Old 09-13-03, 09:16 AM   #2
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Default same here

I#m experiencing the same problem with the 4496 drivers.

Did you ever wait a few minutes? If I do so the Nvidia logo will be displayed after about 3 minutes, sometimes even this ugly grey X background gets visible. After that the screen gets black again for the next 3 minutes.

I'm using a kernel version 2.4.22 with nvidia drivers 4496
The gpu is a gerforce3 TI 200, too.
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Old 09-13-03, 09:26 AM   #3
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No, I did not wait... maybe a minute or so
But as you say it wont work anyway?
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Old 09-13-03, 04:14 PM   #4
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No, it won't work anyway :-(

I tried it again with APIC disabled in the kernel, but that did not help either.

If I find a solution I'll post it here, but I have not much hope.
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Old 09-20-03, 06:19 AM   #5
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Default Solution at least for me

I noticed that most of you seem to have a similar problem to me.
When X runs it hangs for a good solid 3 minutes and then finally comes
up with everything functioning(that varies from the top2). This is with
the 4496 drivers. Also I noticed you all have the same card as me,
geforce3 TI 200.

To my delight I found a solution and most importantly it worked.
Here is the relevant snippets from the README pertaining to the 4496
drivers

Q: X takes a long time to start (possibly several minutes). What can
I do?

A: Most of the startx delay problems we have found are caused by incorrect
data in video BIOSes about what display devices are possibly connected
or what i2c port should be used for detection. You can work around
these problems with the XF86Config option "IgnoreDisplayDevices"
(please see the description in (app-d) APPENDIX D: XF86CONFIG OPTIONS).


Here is where IgnoreDisplayDevices is described:
------------------------------------------------
Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "string"
This option tells the NVIDIA kernel module to completely
ignore the indicated classes of display devices when
checking what display devices are connected. You may
specify a comma-separated list containing any of "CRT",
"DFP", and "TV".

For example:

Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "DFP, TV"

will cause the NVIDIA driver to not attempt to detect
if any flatpanels or TVs are connected.

This option is not normally necessary; however, some video
BIOSes contain incorrect information about what display
devices may be connected, or what i2c port should be
used for detection. These errors can cause long delays
in starting X. If you are experiencing such delays, you
may be able to avoid this by telling the NVIDIA driver to
ignore display devices which you know are not connected.

NOTE: anything attached to a 15 pin VGA connector is
regarded by the driver as a CRT. "DFP" should only be
used to refer to flatpanels connected via a DVI port.

Here is what I did to my XF86Config file:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "nvidia"
Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "DFP, TV"
VendorName "Videocard vendor"
BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 3 (generic)"
EndSection

Your milage may vary but it fixed mine.

Cheers
Justin
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Old 09-25-03, 12:49 PM   #6
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Thank you very much, that solves the problem. Sometimes I just should look better on the readme-files ;-)
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Old 09-26-03, 03:43 AM   #7
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Well, It finally worked!!!

The config:

1) Standard XF86config (NVidia driver of course), no options.
2) kernel 2.6.0-test5 with NFORCE AGPGART compiled as module
3) X version 4.3.0
4) Last NV driver with minion.de patch

I did _not_ disable ACPI,APIC and other things.
No kernel parametrs

X is working without crashes, AGP4x enabled.
All GL games (quake, JK2) works perfectly
Diablo2 doesnt work under wine with DGA enabled, but I guess it not NV problem
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Old 09-26-03, 06:11 AM   #8
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Default X hanging, ascii garbage (4496) DISABLE BIOS ACPI

Running AMD XP2400, MSI Ge Force FX 5200. I was getting ASCII garbage and lock up in X. If I ran switch2nv, no problems. I'm not sure where I saw it, but I jotted down the suggestion to disable ACPI in the BIOS. I did that and things work just fine now.

I did a google search on ACPI+linux+suse+nvidia and found that this seems to be a hot issue out there.

I am going to take note of some of the other solutions that worked and give them a try.

Thanks for your assistance,
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Old 11-29-03, 11:56 AM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by justin1171

...
Here is what I did to my XF86Config file:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "nvidia"
Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "DFP, TV"
VendorName "Videocard vendor"
BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 3 (generic)"
EndSection

Your milage may vary but it fixed mine.

Cheers
Justin [/b]
This guy is REALLY a rocket scientist!!! He should be (if not already) hired by NVidia.

After hours of browsing the net (including this forum) and numerous X reboots, THIS was the one guide that rocked my world!!!!

Now, my Creative GF3 Ti200 refused any pleas to work with "nvidia" driver, but this, this, this MIRACLE did it.

If you have any questions pending, IMHO, you should point them to THIS guy. He knows what he's doing. Others are just guessing.

Thanks again Justin. (Off to explore Quakes )

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Old 04-15-04, 11:17 PM   #10
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Default Re: X hungs on startup

I had the same problems with slow Xfree86-startup (up to 15 minutes!!), and that Options-line changed the wait to maximum 5 seconds!

Only took me three days to find these forums .

/me bounces away, happily, and starts emerging fluxbox
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Old 04-29-04, 10:43 AM   #11
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This works fine for me also. GeForce 3 Ti200 also...
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