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Old 05-23-12, 11:48 AM   #13
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to be honest, the CPU race is a bit stagnant lately.
AMD is completely outclassed and intel is taking advantage of that. It does not help that most software are *still* not taking advantage of wide multi-threading (so, no real point of going with more cores for most applications) and that generally, software is playing catch up.
In short: there are very few applications today that can take advantage of an increase in computing power. If you have a 1366 processor, which is still quite a beast, you would see very little gain in switching (except if you do a lot of video compression, where either a more powerful 2011 CPU would help for best quality x86 encore or QuickSync on IVB for much faster one at the cost of a bit of quality).

Look at usage today for most people:
- browsing the web: even the lowest APU can do it. Flash is the only stressful app and is getting better and going away
- email/office apps: no CPU stress
- video games: graphic limited. get a GTX680 rather than upgrade CPU/MB/RAM
- boot time: first, don't boot and use sleep modes or use a SSD
- video compression (already more rare): use quickSync (1155 platform)

So, I know it's not quite what you want to hear (looking for excuses to upgrade and get new toys?), but I don't think you can get a good return by changing your Mobo unless you really have a precise need for it.
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Old 05-23-12, 12:09 PM   #14
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to be honest, the CPU race is a bit stagnant lately.
AMD is completely outclassed and intel is taking advantage of that. It does not help that most software are *still* not taking advantage of wide multi-threading (so, no real point of going with more cores for most applications) and that generally, software is playing catch up.
In short: there are very few applications today that can take advantage of an increase in computing power. If you have a 1366 processor, which is still quite a beast, you would see very little gain in switching (except if you do a lot of video compression, where either a more powerful 2011 CPU would help for best quality x86 encore or QuickSync on IVB for much faster one at the cost of a bit of quality).

Look at usage today for most people:
- browsing the web: even the lowest APU can do it. Flash is the only stressful app and is getting better and going away
- email/office apps: no CPU stress
- video games: graphic limited. get a GTX680 rather than upgrade CPU/MB/RAM
- boot time: first, don't boot and use sleep modes or use a SSD
- video compression (already more rare): use quickSync (1155 platform)

So, I know it's not quite what you want to hear (looking for excuses to upgrade and get new toys?), but I don't think you can get a good return by changing your Mobo unless you really have a precise need for it.
This pretty much sums up my stance right now regarding my present mobo and CPU- I've the itch to upgrade to no real need.

Got HT disabled, Turbo disabled, no overclock and this CPU is still faster than what I need. So I'm upgrading other things, such as maxing the RAM out (already done), getting larger and better drivers (larger SSD for boot drive, maybe a large SSD for dedicated steam drive or just a larger and faster HDD, larger HDD for storage, improve the cooling in my system, etc)... kinda' just perfecting my current rig I guess.
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Old 05-24-12, 11:11 AM   #15
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I recently replaced the rig in my sig with Asus RIVE, 3930, 16gb PC2400, 2 SSD's and couldn't be happier.

edit: running 4.6ghz daily though I've had it up to 5.1 but things get toasty there.
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Old 05-25-12, 05:59 PM   #16
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Nice thread, Nekro. Have the same system and same question myself. Probably going to hold out.
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Old 05-25-12, 09:52 PM   #17
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Iam going to upgrade Z77 + 3770K if the damn parts get back instock.
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Old 05-26-12, 10:29 AM   #18
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Look at usage today for most people:
- browsing the web: even the lowest APU can do it. Flash is the only stressful app and is getting better and going away
- email/office apps: no CPU stress
- video games: graphic limited. get a GTX680 rather than upgrade CPU/MB/RAM
- boot time: first, don't boot and use sleep modes or use a SSD
- video compression (already more rare): use quickSync (1155 platform)
Yeah, I'm running a Core 2 Duo E8600 with a GTX680... and even games that allegedly want a quad core, like GTA IV, run smooth because they were patched over time.

I was thinking about upgrading my motherboard / CPU next year... but I may go with an SSD instead. I'm still waiting on Price drops on those, which are getting close. ($1 a Gig)

The only reason that I'd want a Sandy or Ivy bridge would be for the encoding ability... but I'd probably buy a new iMac for that, since my gaming rig only runs games and no other software is installed.
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Old 05-26-12, 07:40 PM   #19
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I want to go 1155 for USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gbps, and UEFI as well.

Other than that, I have no need to upgrade.
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Old 05-26-12, 08:06 PM   #20
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just hope the development kits are more closely tied with pc development so they dont have to spend so much effort cross developing and porting left and right. Maybe we can get some dx 11 implementations that use it for what its worth
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Old 05-29-12, 07:21 PM   #21
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IF you are a gamer and run your i7-920 overclock you want see much difference in games .I went from a i7-920 overclock 4.2gigs to a X79 and a 3820 and if I set the i7-3820 to 4.2gigs and benchmarks games there is very little difference .but the i7-3820 will run at 4.8gigs at 1.265v making it run cooler and use less power .now in other benchmarks the sandy-bridge-E can be up to 40% faster but in just game you want see much difference if you are running a high overclocked i7-920.The PCIe 3 is not going to make much difference since the pcie2 already has plenty of band width. but the other features should help in the future with a X79 board.
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