Changing from FX5800 to ATI 9600pro Upgrade or downgrade

koyo · 10-03-03, 12:16 AM

Thinking of changing to Ati 9600 Pro from my FX5800 o/c 500/1000.

Main reason being it flickers while i'm playing swg and its irritating the **** outa me. From a FX5800 to ATI 9600Pro, considered a upgrade? or downgrade what say u.

In terms of speed FX5800 wins hands down. But pic quailty and soon to be popular HL2, i think ATI has the edge.

cthellis · 10-03-03, 12:36 AM

...and if you wait a bit for the XT you get HL2 as well. Never a bad thing. (And if nothing else the prices on other chips will go down more.

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Hellbinder · 10-03-03, 12:51 AM

Bonuses will be

-Great DX9 performance and Quality
-Mucho better FSAA
-Um.. cat 3.8's

Negatives...
-Will be 1/2 the speed of your 5800 in the majority of Games around today.

Comentary
-You like SWG?? i am playing it to and at 1024x768 2x FSAA+8xAF with the "Default" graphics and terrain settings i get at most 25 FPS and at worst 12 FPS. During most game sessions.

Odly using 4x FSAA it is almost the same performance.

Hellbinder · 10-03-03, 12:52 AM

oh.. if you wait a couple more weeks and get the 9600XT you will get MUCHO better performance than the current 9600pro's. Especialy with the overclocks.

synk · 10-03-03, 01:40 AM

Did you try the new drivers posted on this site a few weeks ago? Supposedly they fix the flickering problem.

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Originally posted by koyo
Thinking of changing to Ati 9600 Pro from my FX5800 o/c 500/1000.

Main reason being it flickers while i'm playing swg and its irritating the **** outa me. From a FX5800 to ATI 9600Pro, considered a upgrade? or downgrade what say u.

In terms of speed FX5800 wins hands down. But pic quailty and soon to be popular HL2, i think ATI has the edge.

-=DVS=- · 10-03-03, 03:06 AM

Huge Upgrade if you plan to play DirectX 9 Games

And good upgrade in older games with AA and AF

Greg · 10-03-03, 06:35 AM

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Originally posted by koyo
.... Main reason being it flickers while i'm playing swg and its irritating the **** outa me. ....

If you'd like to describe your 'flicker' problem, maybe people here could help.

To answer your question directly, the only suggestion that the 9600pro is an upgrade to your 5800/oc to ultra is the recently released HL2 benchmarks. But don't be stupid and upgrade just because of a press release, wait till you try the game yourself. If you do want to upgrade, consider one of the 9800 varients, but look out for the really low memory speed version, it's slower than a 9600.

darkmiasma · 10-03-03, 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by Hellbinder
Negatives...
-Will be 1/2 the speed of your 5800 in the majority of Games around today.

Why would it be half the speed of the 5800? I thought since the 5800 was only using a 128bit-bus it would basically be the same thing.

- Mike

Hellbinder · 10-03-03, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by darkmiasma
Why would it be half the speed of the 5800? I thought since the 5800 was only using a 128bit-bus it would basically be the same thing.

- Mike

Don' Tink So.....

Perhaps you should take a gander back over some the fX5800U reviews. Its still the same speed as a 9700pro more or less.

darkmiasma · 10-03-03, 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by Hellbinder
Don' Tink So.....

Perhaps you should take a gander back over some the fX5800U reviews. Its still the same speed as a 9700pro more or less.

Well, he never said Ultra, but I haven't looked at a 5800 review in quite some time. I'm sure you are correct, I just thought 1/2 the speed was a bit excessive ... i would have thought 75-80% ... maybe i'll go poke around a bit later.

- Mike

hithere · 10-03-03, 11:27 AM

I'll go with most of the guys in here and say wait a few weeks for the 9600XT. According to reports, the XT will be the first of the R3xx "budget" line to outperform the 9700 across the board (at ~$200). I would definitely choose that over either the 9600 or the 5800.

euan · 10-03-03, 12:15 PM

The 9600 will be a very cheap route to a much better upgrade early next year. My 9700p died, so I just bought a 9600p to make do. I'm not going to spend another £300 on a 9800p. The 9600 is great, and to be honest it still plays games great. Granted it is slower, but if you just knock the res down from 1280 to 1024 and keep AA on it's almost as good. I thought I'd be unhappy, but it's actually not bad. The amazing thing about the 9600 is the heatsink. You'll be shocked when you see it. It looks and feels like chrome plated plastic! And it's tiny. Compare it next to your 5800.

10-03-03, 12:16 AM	#1
koyo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1	Changing from FX5800 to ATI 9600pro Upgrade or downgrade Thinking of changing to Ati 9600 Pro from my FX5800 o/c 500/1000. Main reason being it flickers while i'm playing swg and its irritating the **** outa me. From a FX5800 to ATI 9600Pro, considered a upgrade? or downgrade what say u. In terms of speed FX5800 wins hands down. But pic quailty and soon to be popular HL2, i think ATI has the edge.

10-03-03, 12:51 AM	#3
Hellbinder Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: CDA Posts: 1,510	Bonuses will be -Great DX9 performance and Quality -Mucho better FSAA -Um.. cat 3.8's Negatives... -Will be 1/2 the speed of your 5800 in the majority of Games around today. Comentary -You like SWG?? i am playing it to and at 1024x768 2x FSAA+8xAF with the "Default" graphics and terrain settings i get at most 25 FPS and at worst 12 FPS. During most game sessions. Odly using 4x FSAA it is almost the same performance. __________________ Overam Mirage 4700 3.2ghz P4 HT SIS 748FX Chipset 800mhz FSB 1Gig DDR-400 60Gig 7200RPM HD Radeon 9600M Turbo 128 (400/250) Catalyst 4.2 Latest good read. [url]http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTc4LDE=http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTc4LDE=[/url]

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Hellbinder Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: CDA Posts: 1,510	oh.. if you wait a couple more weeks and get the 9600XT you will get MUCHO better performance than the current 9600pro's. Especialy with the overclocks. __________________ Overam Mirage 4700 3.2ghz P4 HT SIS 748FX Chipset 800mhz FSB 1Gig DDR-400 60Gig 7200RPM HD Radeon 9600M Turbo 128 (400/250) Catalyst 4.2 Latest good read. [url]http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTc4LDE=http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTc4LDE=[/url]

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10-03-03, 12:15 PM	#12
euan Fully Qualified FanATIc Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow, Scotland. Posts: 387	The 9600 will be a very cheap route to a much better upgrade early next year. My 9700p died, so I just bought a 9600p to make do. I'm not going to spend another £300 on a 9800p. The 9600 is great, and to be honest it still plays games great. Granted it is slower, but if you just knock the res down from 1280 to 1024 and keep AA on it's almost as good. I thought I'd be unhappy, but it's actually not bad. The amazing thing about the 9600 is the heatsink. You'll be shocked when you see it. It looks and feels like chrome plated plastic! And it's tiny. Compare it next to your 5800. __________________ Sys.txt

10-03-03, 12:36 AM	#2
cthellis Hoopy frood Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 549	...and if you wait a bit for the XT you get HL2 as well. Never a bad thing. (And if nothing else the prices on other chips will go down more. )

10-03-03, 11:27 AM	#11
hithere Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 176	I'll go with most of the guys in here and say wait a few weeks for the 9600XT. According to reports, the XT will be the first of the R3xx "budget" line to outperform the 9700 across the board (at ~$200). I would definitely choose that over either the 9600 or the 5800.