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Anand posts Initial HL2 results with new Dets
Here it is...
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One word from me... Disturbing.
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10-02-03, 12:23 AM
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I'd like to see if Valve has anything to say about Nvidia's performance gains when the drivers are official. Would they be prepared to publically criticize Nvidia for any IQ degradation? Or would they accept or even praise Nvidia's efforts as a beneficial compromise for their customers? We could be in for some high drama.
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10-02-03, 12:24 AM
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I like the way they keep posting benchmarks that they are not sure of and from "other sources". This has a bad smell to it.
How could they have doubled performance? They already had a special code path that reduced precision. I think the strategy here is to get these benchmarks leaked now using these hacked drivers knowing Valve will disable the cheats in the final version of the game. Then nVidia will claim Valve is disabling performance on GFFX cards just to punish nVidia and their customers (what they did with 3DMark03) and these benchmarks will be their "proof".
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10-02-03, 12:35 AM
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OMG, I am so sick of this "Neverending Story".
When will this madness ever stop? Oh, please...
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10-02-03, 12:42 AM
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I think I know what they did....
Valve treated FX's as DX8 hardware to make the game runable. Now nVidia is going one better and treating it as DX7 hardware to make their cards competitive. ?
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10-02-03, 12:51 AM
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ya - I sure would like to know wtf is going on here - especially before I go and run out and buy a 9800...
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10-02-03, 01:08 AM
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Sayonara !!!
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10-02-03, 01:12 AM
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its still lower iq, and probably even lower iq since these cheating drivers, not to mention it still gets owned by 30fps in techdemo 5
 when is punkbuster gonna detect driver cheats?? 
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10-02-03, 01:14 AM
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We won't know for sure until the DAMN HL2 Bench and Det 52.10's come out. Of course if freaking people could keep thier words (Valve/Vivendi/Nvidia) the we would alread have our answers (as Valve had said that HL2 & HL2 Bench would be out 9/30 and Nvidia said Det 50's would be out BEFORE that). I personally think there is some serious scrambling to get this thing playable on Nvidia cards (Valve and Nvidia working on optimizations). I don't care WHAT Gabe said, he can't alienate a company that represents such a large part of the games's customers. Hope it comes out soon though...at least the bench. I wanna see what my crappy 5900U can pull of...lol.
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10-02-03, 01:20 AM
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Re: Anand posts Initial HL2 results with new Dets
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10-02-03, 01:23 AM
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Kudos to nVidia for pullin themselves outta the rut they were in, thats for sure, but Im still buyin this 9800 pro when it comes out next week to replace my 5900 http://www.ocprices.com/index.php?re...action=reviews |
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Re: Re: Anand posts Initial HL2 results with new Dets
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Meaning I gurantee you that even this "Mixed mode" test Nvidia is doing Specific per level application detection and completely replacing the games code with DX8 stuff. Meaning even replacing Valves own Shaders that they customized for Nvidia themselves. It means that it is flatly not DX9 Vs DX9 at all. It is DX8 being Reported as DX9 "mixed mode". True "Mixed mode" is still DX9 it just uses FP16. This is clearly not whats happening here. This my Friends is outright Fraud.
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